Why wont our society recognize alcohol as a drug? Makes me crazy!

Not for you, though, amirite?

 

There are GOOD and BAD points to every drug known to man. Cigarettes and Alcohol (in terms of consumption; not medicinal) are just easier to tax, so they tax it.

 

Drug or not, it's still awesome :

 

drinking is all fine and so, but people over do it too much

 

heh, if alcohol was illegal or considered a drug, nearly everyone would be arrested for overdose on more than one occasion ;D

 

yeah, i think alcohol should be considered an illegal drug. i mean, its already been proven that alcohol is worse for you than drugs like extacy but extacy is illegal? i dont get it. it just doesnt make sense.

 

Extacy, being illegal, isn't in as common use as alcohol. To assume that X drug that is legal, and because of this, kills more people, is pretty ridiculous. If X and Y were both legal, and both in the same common consumption, then I doubt the argument of X kills more would still be valid or even true.

 

Ecstasy tabs are a bad example as they are very similar in effect to alcohol. A much better hypocrisy is the fact that marijuana is illegal in most countries where alcohol is legal, as marijuana;
a) Is not physically addictive.
b) Does not incite violence.
c) Is nearly impossible to overdose.
d) Does minimal damage to the body.

 

In Nepal they conciser Marijuana a religious substance, although I'm not too sure of their views on alcohol. The point is, all societies are going to have different views on what is considered a tolerant substance.

Marijuana in the 1930's was linked racially to African Americans (in the States). They thought it made people go crazy. That was the first reason it was banned as an illegal drug. But now it is such a huge underground enterprise they couldn't tax it if it was made legal. In my opinion what the government should do is grow mass amounts of extremely high-grade Marijuana & sell it for, let's say, 10 bucks a pack, 10 bucks for 20 joints. Just like tobacco, that would kill the private market. Why would anyone go to their dealer's house & pay 25-35 bucks for 7 grams when they could go to the E-Z Mart down the street a buy a pack for 10? Alcohol & tobacco are way more harmful to the body that weed. out of 10,000 people, alochol kills 40, tobacco kills 400, & weed?... Zero. Let's not forget it helps thousands of AIDs & cancer patients deal with their pain everyday. These people are getting raided by the federal government everyday just because they want to easy their pain. It's ridiculous...

 

Alcohol has biblical porportions. It has been around since humans have(more or less)
I agree to some extent as it causes loss of life, a severe disease, and liver failure over time.
But the politicians drink, so do the judges, congress, ect.
Therefore it won't be classified as a scheduled drug, by the DEA anytime soon.
Weed, should be legal, by script only. That's my opinion, but I've seen the effects of alcoholism, and know it's not something you can just 'kick'. It IS a drug, and it's available at any 7-Eleven.
On that note, you can't walk into the same 7-Eleven and buy some Vicodin tablets, now can you?
I never really was that much of a drinker, but I did drink for a month straight, and when I kicked it, it hurt. I have kicked pain-killers as well, after many, many moons of usage for a wrecked shoulder/arm. God speed to anyone trying to get off the fire water, and to those who think a few drinks is ok, it is, but I have yet to meet anyone who could drink in moderation. Thus, the reason it is a full fledged drug. Higher addiction rate, withdrawal is fierce, tolerance level to said alcohol goes up, severe long term health effects, impaired judgment, loss of inhibition, intoxicated fights, fatalities, rapes, and a lot of regret. Any of that sound good to anyone?

 

Before the bible was written. Still has no standing on anything. Opium was legal to smoke centuries ago, and it still is in parts of china and the middle east.

That's the fault of the drinker, not the people whom provide the drink. If they wish to kill themselves, then that is their choice.

Because some people with authority drink, does not mean it wouldn't become illegal. It wouldn't become illegal because it's easily taxable, and it is one of the oldest medicines in history, and is still used to this day in various places.

Marijuana is legal in many places, for prescription, for joints (as in arthritis, not a joint of cannabis.) etc. If someone is an alcoholic, they can choose whether or not they want to stop. The same as heroine addicts and any other addict you can think of. A problem is a problem. Boose is at 7-eleven, well crack is around the block for just as cheap.

You can overdose on Vicodin. You have to buy a pretty large amount of alcohol to create immediate death.

Sounds like you have an addictive personality, you should be more careful, if that is the case, rather than being narrow in your perception.

I drink in moderation. I have a beer or a whisky every night, and that's about it. I never go out and get leathered because I don't see the point.

Rapes? Rape isn't down to 'Alchohol'. Rape is a state of mind. People go out with no drugs and rape people. Saying that makes you sound pretty damned pathetic.
Higher addiction rate to what? The highest drug in use, in the world. Is tobacco, it equally has long term health problems, and it is bad for people who are around smokers constantly.
Withdrawals from anything addictive is bad.
Tolerance goes up with any substance, not just alcohol, your points so far are a waste of time.

impaired judgment - Your judgement is impaired the second you decide to go out and get trashed.
loss of inhibition - Can do, on some people.
intoxicated fights - Broad spectrum, people fight without alcohol.
fatalities - People die without alcohol. Fatalities can be from someone who is a normal driver, not just drunk, or someone who was born with kidney problems not someone who drinks.

To me it makes it sound like you're coming up with excuses. I have a family member who is an alcoholic, his deal, it's not the drugs fault, but the user, and it always will be.

 

I dont care if its considered a drug or not, ive honestly never thought about it. I just hate that we cant have cigarette ads but we are littered in alcohol ads, which are (in my opinion) just as bad.

 

According to my high school health book, a drug is any substance that changes the state of one's body or mind. It's just that the US war on drugs has given that very word ("drug," not "war") a negative connotation. And drugs used for recreational purposes are called "drugs of abuse," regardless of their legality.

The Prohibition... wasn't a very good time. A black market is a smuggler's best friend. (Perhaps I should invest...) But I do agree there always has to be some degree of regulation. People often take the chance to do something bad if they think they'll be able to get away with it, and high fines for driving drunk really scares people, especially since we value money so much during these days!

Unless you go by the sheep, women, and gold standard.

 

Water's a drug? fatty foods are recreational drugs? lol!

 

how much does the government make on alcohol taxes?
thats why it will always be legal

 

I'm not the ass who wrote the health book as if all teenagers are neutered beings with no sexual desires whatsoever...

 

are recreational drugs really so bad?
yeah crack and heroin are bad, people get addicted and rob old ladies to get money but ecstacy, coke, mkat, speed are nothing, if they wasnt illegal it would be no big deal they have no real effect like alcohol where you can get in a state and not know what your doing.
they just make you feel better for a short time.

 

I already have lung problems. Chronic use of cocaine for recreational purposes dyspnoea, right?

Anyway, I'd rather use my money (OMG I have moniez?!) for... DVDs. Certain DVDs. Certain DVDs from Russia. Certain DVDs from Russia that are legal to own and view. And they are legal, all of the... models had their birth certificates and IDs and all, right? But, having never really seen Russian documents, I guess they could be fake... No, don't think like that! It's all legal! I'm not doing anything bad! I just...

...Mikhail?

 

Messo, you're the greatest new poster since I/Littlekill/Suis/Hypr joined.

 

Since when you a great Nat?You are surely hot.