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war, is it necessary??

Discussion in 'Debates' started by ultra, Feb 6, 2008.

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  1. gaynorvader

    gaynorvader Well-Known Member

    I realise that, but I'm talking before Poland was invaded, the allies kept giving Hitler more and more treaties every time he broke one and invaded a country. Poland was just the straw that broke the donkey's back
     
  2. clyffe28

    clyffe28 Well-Known Member

    allied thought they could appease hitler so they just let him take any land he wants thinking he should be satisfied and then stop his invasion ................. and not many treaties were signed during WW2
     
  3. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    the allies were not ready for war, they needed time to build their forces or Hitler would have walked over them.
     
  4. Almo

    Almo Well-Known Member

    TBH i think war is absolutely necessary in this time of over population. Something has to cut as down,I mean if its not us then nature will do it for us (anyone who knows of population curves knows this). But that takes time, war does it pretty much instantly and things need to be done now. Yeah so what thats not the nicest things to say but tis true.
     
  5. clyffe28

    clyffe28 Well-Known Member

    Its a cruel way to decreas population but before we should result to war should't we dicipline ourselves. Soldiers die because we keep multiplying so in the future even a war could not affect the rapid growth of population
     
  6. iceredaph32

    iceredaph32 Well-Known Member

    man is the most intelligent being on earth but here misunderstandings still happed but have you ever heared of animals declaring war? we should be ashamed
     
  7. Almo

    Almo Well-Known Member

    no but animals arent stupid enough to mass over populate themselves, and when they do nature sorts it out (once again the population curves). Nature doesnt sort our population out enough because we think that we are above nature and modify it as much as we can to keep ourselves alive.
     
  8. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    Define intelligent.
     
  9. iceredaph32

    iceredaph32 Well-Known Member

    the way we understand better than animals, the sense of responsibility
     
  10. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    Animals are perfectly capable of an equal level of understanding. Check this video:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xr1pWzoLvT8

    Why did the wild lioness not attack the humans? why did she let one of them pet her? Because she understood that those humans were old friends of her mate.

    Why did Elsa Adamson not attack her parents' servant when he touched the body of her first kill? Because she understood that he was trying to help her get it out the river, that he was not taking it away from her. Why did she let him cut it's throat after she had killed it? because she understood that his religious beliefs required that its throat was cut before it was eaten.

    Why did she take her wild born cubs back to her parents as she was dying? because she knew they couldn't look after themselves, and she knew her parents would care for them. She had a responsibility to her cubs, and she knew she was dying and unable to help them any longer, so she passed the responsibility over to her human parents before she died.

    intelligence is a concept invented by humans to 'prove' that they are superior.
     
  11. bhatooth

    bhatooth Well-Known Member

    wow heart warming show
     
  12. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    Not a show, real life. happened in the 80s
     
  13. bhatooth

    bhatooth Well-Known Member

    why did george get killed who the f*ck killed him
     
  14. iceredaph32

    iceredaph32 Well-Known Member

    ok I change my defenition on intelligence

    Intelligence is the power to change the world an make it a better place
     
  15. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    armed robbers, he was trying to protect a german tourist. Kenyan government let the army loose in the reserve and they were arrested two days later.

    but this is getting off topic.
     
  16. iceredaph32

    iceredaph32 Well-Known Member

    ok back to topic

    a war greatly decreases population but what good is it when we just keep on multiplying so in the end we just have to have dicipline and not resort to any violence such as wars
     
  17. clyffe28

    clyffe28 Well-Known Member

    thats right there are other ways of keeping the population from exploding
     
  18. iceredaph32

    iceredaph32 Well-Known Member

    like what?
     
  19. clyffe28

    clyffe28 Well-Known Member

    for example we might require mother who have atleast 3 children to have an operation which will disable their potency of giving birth thus slowing the birthrate and having stable families and decreas families who suffer from poverty because they have 12 or more children to support
     
  20. gaynorvader

    gaynorvader Well-Known Member

    The only problem with that is that people would campaign for the right to choose to have as many children as they wanted. Unless it was a dictatorship, the government would probably yeild to their demands. If it was a dictatorship, then it'd probably lead to rebellion in most countries. Yay a war, everybody wins...
     
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