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veggies or meat?

Discussion in 'Debates' started by DSaddictforever, Apr 10, 2009.

  1. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    Plants are also living.
     
  2. musiclegend14

    musiclegend14 Well-Known Member

    I guess he can't eat now
     
  3. TirithRR

    TirithRR Well-Known Member

    From the Simpsons:
    "I'm a level 5 vegan, I don't eat anything that casts a shadow."

    I would. Maybe grind you up into some Musiclegend-burger. Throw it out on the grill, some pepperjack cheese melted ontop. Fry up some bacon and sautee up some mushrooms. Lettuce and maybe a thin slice of tomato.
     
  4. damanali

    damanali Well-Known Member

    Wow, TirithRR, you just made the krabby patty secret formula
     
  5. musiclegend14

    musiclegend14 Well-Known Member

    you make me sound delicious = p
     
  6. dhanash

    dhanash Well-Known Member

    reason why veggies are better:
    they are simple to be broken down into the other macro and mico nutrients since they dont require to be cooked long
    they will give you more energy since they are the producers
    they dont really have diseases that can be transfered to humans
    apart from they not tasting nice
    they are good for you!
     
  7. TirithRR

    TirithRR Well-Known Member

    Meats are the largest source of complete proteins. There are a select sources of vegetables that do have complete proteins, but they make up a small portion of the list. Just because your can of beans has protein, doesn't mean they are complete. The proteins contained in meat have all the essential amino acids for your body to use, this isn't true for much of the protein contained in non-meat.

    If it weren't for the existing global infrastructure of growing and distributing food, a healthy vegetarian lifestyle would not be possible for many people. These vegetables that do contain complete proteins would just not be available.

    In truth, a healthy balanced diet is just that, balanced. Meats, Grains, Vegetables, Fruits.
     
  8. The_Fox

    The_Fox Well-Known Member

    Just to add to TirithRR's statement (which all are valid points)

    Meat = yummy :D
     
  9. dhanash

    dhanash Well-Known Member

    agree with that you say but veggies gives you a large amount of energy
     
  10. L

    L Active Member

    its not that veggies give you a lot of energy
    it might be the opposite actually since meat contains Creatine which helps transfer energy faster to the muscles
    the advantage of being a vegetarian is that after a meal we wont be as bloated or gain so much weight from eating too much fatty foods (which can cause lack of energy)
    we also have better bones since the body needs calcium to digest so much proteins so we have less chances of osteoporosis in the future
    vegetarians also get a lot of essential vitamins from fruits and vegetables compared to people who mostly eat meat (another reason for more energy)

    if you are a vegeterian who also eats eggs, it has great benifits since its a great source of protein
    if you eat fish as well (tuna, salmon) its a great source of omega 3?? not sure cant remember (good kind of fat)

    but as far as bulking up goes vegeterians are at a huge disadvantage
    i have to try and read every damn label to find good sources of protein since i cant be preparing food 5 times a day

    rest i agree with TirithRR
    best diet = meat, grains, vegetables, fruits
    im a vegeterian so i only get 3 out 4 from that list :(
     
  11. gaynorvader

    gaynorvader Well-Known Member

    I'm actually allergic to a lot of vegetables (at least I think I am, they give me cramps, digestive problems, etc.) but I still eat the one's I can. Generally I eat meat and cereals though and have no time for vegetarians who think that eating animals is wrong, fair enough if you feel uncomfortable doing so, but stop trying to force your social agendas on the rest of us.
    Besides, according to my latest research (in my back garden); plants have a global neural net, so when you kill one plant every single plant on the face of the earth feels its pain. I asked the carrots, they said it's true!
     
  12. TirithRR

    TirithRR Well-Known Member

    Well, if you are a vegetarian that eats eggs (I still find that concept funny), that is good for your protein, since one hard boiled egg has 11% of the Daily value of protein, and only 70 calories. Not to mention all the other nutrients an egg has like Vitamin B. And at only 70 calories, you can easily mix them in with your breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and help reach your protein requirements.

    I'll sometimes boil a dozen eggs one night and then eat two eggs before leaving for work each morning. Two usually keeps me going for the rest of the day until lunch. Proteins and Vitamin B are better for lasting energy than the carbohydrates you get from cereals and grains, which burn up really quickly.
     
  13. musiclegend14

    musiclegend14 Well-Known Member

    that's what i do as well....and they're yummy = ]
     
  14. 1prinnydood

    1prinnydood Guest

    I think the purist vegetarian diet is not very healthy. To be vegan is worse. You can be reasonably environmentally sound and have a great diet by adding eggs, milk(butter ect.) and shellfish to a pure vegetarian diet.
    From the environmental point of view milk(and importantly it's by-products such as butter and cheese) is a sticky issue. The rearing of cows has a serious impact on our environment, apart from the methane they produce they require allot of land to provide very little energy when compared to using that same land for many crops. But better to have cows eating grass than a bio-fuel crop, which may feed your car but never your stomach.

    Shellfish are very sustainable, more so than some veg, such as bell peppers(the vast amounts of water these things need to grow is staggering). Shellfish such as crabs, lobsters and shrimp are still in very large numbers, they breed like rabbits and can exist in all water types, from pure river water to even very salty water, as long as the water has some oxygen in it they can live.

    This is not a diet for me, but I wanted to promote a good diet for those that are vegies and both care for their health and the environment, milk products are the weakest part of my ideas from the environmental viewpoint, but when thinking of ones personal health milk products add a variety of vitamins and minerals that are difficult to source in a meat free diet. Milk production has a serious environmental impact but it is much less than any form of meat production.
     
  15. ggrroohh

    ggrroohh Well-Known Member

    I like meat but I'll also eat tofu and stuff.I don't like veggies though...
     
  16. dhanash

    dhanash Well-Known Member

    veggies rock! and so does meat!! yea wooo i love food!
     
  17. redoperator

    redoperator Well-Known Member

    veggies actually take more energy to digest than energy it has
     
  18. dhanash

    dhanash Well-Known Member

    no...... since the veggies are mostly eaten raw and their structure is simple it doesnt take long
    and since meat has to be cooked it becomes more complex
     
  19. Penguin360

    Penguin360 Well-Known Member

    I think its quite funny when you walk down the vegetarian isle in the super markets you find veggies which look like meat. It is quite silly really that vegetarians still insist on eating foods which look (and probably taste) like meats
     
  20. dhanash

    dhanash Well-Known Member

    probally just want to fit it.....