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The big Nintendo 3DS roms and emulation discussion thread

Discussion in 'Nintendo' started by athemoe, Jun 14, 2011.

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  1. someirishkid

    someirishkid Well-Known Member

    You should be a lawyer
     
    someirishkid, Oct 16, 2011
    #101
  2. ogh3

    ogh3 Well-Known Member

    But it is a good thing to buy it now while it is still cheap, cause when all the good games come out (Super Mario(s), KH3D, Pokemon(s), Final Fantas(y/ies), etc.) the price will go back up to the way it was, possibly higher
     
    ogh3, Oct 18, 2011
    #102
  3. viccie211

    viccie211 Well-Known Member

    It would be stupid if they do that, because then while there are good games people are less likely to buy it because the price varies a lot.
     
    viccie211, Oct 18, 2011
    #103
  4. sexywogboy

    sexywogboy Well-Known Member

    Why flashcart, and not softmod? Maybe we need to look outside of the box when it comes to 3DS modding.
     
    sexywogboy, Oct 18, 2011
    #104
  5. ogh3

    ogh3 Well-Known Member

    Not really, that is actually smart. and people will buy it only because of their all-time favorites. I know I would (if I didn't all ready have a 3DS)
     
    ogh3, Oct 19, 2011
    #105
  6. rell

    rell Well-Known Member

    Wow. I just read through this entire thread..and wow. Ive never saw a "verbal disagreement" like this.. What has this site come to..Seriously..
     
    rell, Oct 21, 2011
    #106
  7. hirokaski

    hirokaski Well-Known Member

    but when connecting the 3ds to the net for the updates did anyone read the part where to agreeing to the terms and conditions they could make your system unplayable so i think that's there fine print in the case of them being sued although the rom card for the 3ds sound promising as some games may not make it over here if there is a way to prevent permanent damage to the system and be able to restore it afterwards if the worst does happen no flash cards going near my system
     
    hirokaski, Oct 22, 2011
    #107
  8. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    The DS and DSi had the exact same sentence in the terms and conditions, as has every console even going way back. What it means is nintendo cannot be held responsible if the flashcart damages the console. If, on the other hand, nintendo wilfully damages the console because you used a flashcart, then they CAN be held responsible because it is criminal damage.
     
    Loonylion, Oct 22, 2011
    #108
  9. hirokaski

    hirokaski Well-Known Member

    i understand that but also flashcard users are breaking the law by getting the games for free so both are as bad as each other
     
    hirokaski, Oct 23, 2011
    #109
  10. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    entirely different laws, plus flashcarts have legitimate uses. piracy is a civil offence, criminal damage is a criminal offence. Criminal offences are more serious.
     
    Loonylion, Oct 23, 2011
    #110
  11. hirokaski

    hirokaski Well-Known Member

    i know and understand what your trying to explain to me loonylion but no matter what the offense is both parties are still doing something we shouldn't plus with the news of tri g not being localized but 4 coming stateside instead is ok but that black and green dragon i really want to fight so if the rom of that is available i might agree with you all
     
    hirokaski, Oct 23, 2011
    #111
  12. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    no, both parties are NOT necessarily doing something illegal. If bricking code is included in the firmware then nintendo ARE behaving illegally no matter what. If the flashcart user is using it for a legitimate purpose, such as homebrew, then they are NOT acting illegally.
     
    Loonylion, Oct 23, 2011
    #112
  13. hirokaski

    hirokaski Well-Known Member

    that's your choice loony but 99% of flashcard users use it for piracy ask anyone that has a console not alot of them actually buy there games unless they are hardcore fans why do u think rom sites were made ?
     
    hirokaski, Oct 23, 2011
    #113
  14. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    you are making sweeping generalisations. I know 6 people with DSes and only 1 of them pirates games. I myself have 9 consoles including handhelds (10 if you count PS2/3 being backward compatible with PS1), only 2 of them have pirated games. The fact is quite simply that flashcarts have legitimate uses, and the law recognises that. Hammers also have legitimate and illegitimate uses.

    If your chainsaw manufacturer sabotaged the chainsaw you bought from them after the fact, they would be in court for criminal damage, the reason why you bought the chainsaw is completely irrelevant to the case and the company would not be able to say they sabotaged it because they believed you might murder someone with it. The simple facts of the case would be 1) you bought a chainsaw. 2) the chainsaw was your property following the completion of the transaction. 3) the chainsaw was in working order at the time the transaction was completed. 4) subsequent to the transaction being completed, the manufacturer decided to render your chainsaw permanently inoperable.
     
    Loonylion, Oct 23, 2011
    #114
  15. hirokaski

    hirokaski Well-Known Member

    hmm i see where your getting at but the point is Nintendo can backfire at flashcard users saying well if you didn't use it for piracy be it hombrew or not you still used something you shouldn't of which would erupt in a massive law suit which i doubt either hackers, flashcard users or nintendo really want to be messing around with now
     
    hirokaski, Oct 23, 2011
    #115
  16. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    No it would not. Nintendo cannot sue people for using flashcarts. Nor is banning the use of them in their EULA legally binding in any way.
     
    Loonylion, Oct 23, 2011
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  17. hirokaski

    hirokaski Well-Known Member

    i know that but they still said the system will be made unplayable im just stating what i read
     
    hirokaski, Oct 24, 2011
    #117
  18. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    if they use the word 'will' it could easily get them into trouble in most European countries, as it can be taken as evidence of intent. Over here, intent to commit a crime is a crime in itself.
     
    Loonylion, Oct 24, 2011
    #118
  19. ogh3

    ogh3 Well-Known Member

    Show us where exactly is this said, because as Loonylion and many others have said, they can't break your system intentionally.
     
    ogh3, Oct 26, 2011
    #119
  20. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    they can't even threaten to in western europe. doing so would be evidence of 'intent to commit criminal damage'.
     
    Loonylion, Oct 26, 2011
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