telekinesis and pirokinesis real?

If you can't alter the amount of strength you put into a punch or a kick, something's wrong.

 

can we please stop bringing up qi, make a new debate if you want to discuss life force energy flows.

keep on topic

 

Well that's sorta what these are. They aren't "powers" in a since. They are different forms of Ki--something like that. I have a few articles on my PSP bookmarked. I will post them when I feel like hooking it up.

 

i think qi is related and relevant to the debate seen as as it requires the same meditation techniques as telekinesis, and theres no point debating if everything relevant is excluded. judging by that link loony gave i reckon most people with an interest have tried or do both. I have a big interest in this and practice qi(sort of) plus i have tried to disprove it via the link i gave but so far haven't managed it, but i believe its probably do-able and i fancy the chaces of physics over mind powers.

 

well carry on then.

although as you your self said it has already been shown that someone that trains and has the right techniques can produce the same results as someone that attributes things to energy flows within their body.

for me it's a weak link and an easy way for those that are selling the idea of telekinesis to get people on board. it is a technique used allot with these sorts of things. link what you believe to something more widely excepted and your more likely to get people liking what your saying.

 

Who cares if someone doesn't like what we are saying? The info is out there, and most of the articles it tells you what needs to be done to use telekinesis. Actually to be honest I'm sure you've done it before by accident. Many people do, it's just one of those mysterious things.

 

So it's gone from something that requires dedicated focus and training to something that supposedly most people have done...

 

no nex we all possess the ability we just need to meditate to focus it and unlock our awesome powers.

 

These are sites I've been to on my PSP. A few talk about the telekenesis thing well a couple. I haven't been to them in almost a year. Have fun.

http://www.dbzn.net/mythology/ki.shtml
http://www.squidoo.com/chiqigong
http://www.thiaoouba.com/aura_eye_exercise.htm
http://ezinearticles.com/?3-Powerful-Meditations-to-Open-Third-Eye-Chakra&id=1564177
http://members.fortunecity.com/kisociety/undergroundsociety/id4.html
http://www.meditationiseasy.com/mCorner/techniques/trataka.htm

There. I haven't looked at any of them in so long but I know a couple talk about telekinses and stuff. And before I see anyone say that Ki and tele whatever aren't the same can go somewhere. Learning the basics of Ki is needed to develop what it takes to use tele--. So now that I've said KI and THIRD EYE TRAINING is ESSENTIAL, you all may have a good time.

 

So i've been taking a course in Dragon Ball Z and my teacher taught me how to do a Kamehameha. That's like the same thing as the stuff in this topic right?

 

No but the bottom line IS, that Ki is the basis of all these "powers".

 

http://www.rapeface.zenaku.net/nothingbutthetruth.txt

 

Your sources are LOL! You cite a DragonBall Z site, and a user site on Fortune City.

I suppose I can pull off a HADOUKEN! after years of Ki and Chi training myself, right? Oh please do enlighten on me on this, tyson_rss!

 

go ahead and enlighten yourself. i read them it's not like i tried it.so how can you ask me to enlighten you if i wasn't the one who made those articles? i had more detailing about the telekinesis but i guess they were deleted.you don't believe it because you haven't seen it, the cartoons exaguate these attacks but i don't see why they aren't possible if your able to bend ki, of cousre though the attacks won't be at a magnitude of the cartoons,so don't flatter yourself thinking i cant hold my end.

 

Says you who fails to provide proper evidence.

By the way, I've seen David Blaine levitate in mid air. Does that count?

 

WHERE. WHERE?!

Anyways. If anyone could harness enormous amounts of Ki, We could already stand a chance against Chuck Norris.
I'm kinda skeptical about this... It's like that guy who can hurt people without even touching them

 

i'm sorry tyson but none of them showed anything to do with telekinesis.

and just to say you have to see it for it to be real is bogus.

i have seen all sorts of shit like this hell i've even had fairies guide me in a sort of tarot card question the fairies/spirit world exercise thingermebob !that worked! .
but you know they are all designed for the gullible to believe and when you reflect with just a little common sense and real world knowledge you see how stupid they are.

i've seen people contact the dead but it does not make that real, especially as i know about cold reading and once you know the how to look for that it makes the whole spectacle look crazy.

seeing does not automatically make something real.

next time you look at these things look at it with a critical eye and some common sense, i'm sure if anyone goes in to these things wanting to believe enough it will be real to them that's the way they get people believing in this crap.

i'm still waiting on documented evidence of someone pulling off any telekinetic abilities.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CASghTzNhc

 

If people are able to pull any telekinetic stuff off, There'd be millions of videos on youtube by now. And flying cars

 

Well then, if there's a correlation between the energy expended and the mass to be manipulated, there must have been some kind of scientific study on the nature of this physical interaction to determine as much, no?