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Hmm....I need to make time to replay P4. >_>

 

YAY!!! I redid the drawing of Smash because my last one looked totally s****y. Now I gotta put the kanji and some other stuff to sugarcoat it. My classmate told me not to sugarcoat anything, but who cares now!!!

 

Ooh! Ooh! CAN I SEE IT? PLEEEAAASSEEE~?

And by the way groh, if you're still looking for those fusions, I could help, maybe. >_>

 

MY SCANNER WORKS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *kisses the nearest girl* But seriously, I gotta add some extra stuff to it before I can do anything else, kay? I'm doing other stuff to it when I get to sex ed Drugs 101 Health class.

 

Give me recipie for

Genbu with Niflheim (Skadi)
Seiryu with Phanta Rhei (Norn)

That's all I want
I have Suzaku with Ragnarock and Byakko with Thunder Reign already

 

If you had a choice of two weapons to go up against a soldier. Would you choose a shotgun or a baseball bat?

 

lol, alright then. XD

Hmm.....alright, I'll work out a recipe. Give me 15 minutes, maybe 20, and I should have it. >_>

 

Thanks

Hard mode 4 battle persona here I come~

 

baseball bat.

 

Can I use a shotgun that shoots baseball bats?

EDIT: On an unrelated note, does anyone know how to change the your name in here?

 

Depends normal bat or sandman?
ALso depends if he has direct hit or not.
Direct hit go for it with the baseball bat, not direct hit use your scatter gun.

 

Well I gotta go to school. See ya guys.

 

I wonder if my performance will be better if I listen to those songs while paying Touhou?
I think I'll test the theory later

 

Sorry, groh. >_>

I couldn't manage to find the recipes...

I'll do some more research, and get back to you when I have the answers. <_<

[me=light]bows his head in shame.[/me]

 

Maybe this can help

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9d. Techniques                                                         [009d0]


You can probably get through the game without ever delving into the nuances of 
fusion, but if you take some time to really dig into it, there is lot for you 
to explore.

The most common questions I see are about how to get a certain skill onto a 
certain Persona, usually with regard to one of Elizabeth's requests. Those 
requests are meant for the player to try to wrap his or her head around fusion 
mechanics. 

Of course, it would be easy to provide a formula/recipe to fulfill those 
requests, but this does not necessarily benefit the player in terms of actually 
fully understanding fusion. Two aspects of Persona 3, fusion and Social Link 
management, are actually different types of logic puzzles that force the player 
to actually think about what he or she is doing.

If this does not fit your playing style, then this section is not for you. I 
say this with no condescension, as I understand that every gamer has 
preferences in terms of how he or she decides to enjoy a game. On the other 
hand, if you decide that you do not necessarily want to be held by the hand but 
still desire further elaboration on the fusion system, read on.

You should first go back and read through Section 6 in its entirety. Then 
return here, but make sure you have the skill inheritance tables on hand for 
the following discussions.

Of course, the introduction of skill cards makes a lot of this more in-depth 
than is necessary, but in cases where you cannot abuse skill cards, the 
following sections will still be of decent use.


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 (1) Inheritance management                                             [009d1]


First, terminology, some of which I've already been using:


- A TARGET Persona is one you want to make.
- An INGREDIENT Persona is what you use to create a target.
- A FORMULA or RECIPE is a list of steps traced from your initial ingredients 
  to the final target.
- NOISE is what we will refer to as a collective term for unwanted skills that 
  are heavily favored by the target. For example, you want to create a Thanatos 
  with Vorpal Blade. Therefore, Dark-type and Bad Status-type skills are what 
  we would refer to as noise in this particular instance.
- JUNK is the inverse of noise. Junk will be used to denote unwanted skills 
  that are either NOT favored by the target or flat-out impossible for the 
  target to inherit.


The two things that you need to master when it comes to advanced fusion are 
noise control and junk distribution. Allow me to use a very easy example:


> TARGET:  Byakko with Elec Amp, Thunder Reign, Spell Master
> FORMULA: Odin x Surt


This is not a difficult fusion at all, but to cover the bases of my discussion, 
I will go over several important points, step-by-step.


  1. Carryover

Try to produce a carryover of at least (n+1) skills, where n is the number of 
specific skills that you want on the target.

This should be obvious. You want a little leeway so you're not stuck with 
having to ABSOLUTELY get every single one of your skills right. In this case, 
we want Byakko to inherit 3 specific skills, so we should have enough skills on 
Surt and Odin to produce a carryover of 4. To do this, we need a minimum of 
12 total skills between Odin and Surt.

In triangle spread fusion, you should generally try to fill up all three 
ingredients with 8 skills each, giving you a carryover of 5.


  2. Noise control

In this case, the transfer of Thunder Reign from Odin to Byakko is easy because 
Byakko is an Elec-type, so he will readily accept Thunder Reign. However, we do 
have noise in the form of any other Elec skills on Odin, who learns both 
Ziodyne and Maziodyne. In addition to the fact that Byakko learns these two 
spells naturally anyway, we don't want them because we want Elec Amp and Spell 
Master, passive skills. The problem is that Byakko will heavily favor carrying 
over Ziodyne and Maziodyne.

Therefore, when you create Odin in the first place (of course, since Odin can 
only be acquired through fusion), you should look to control the noise by means 
of...


  3. Junk distribution

So, let's see. Odin also learns Vile Assault, which is a physical skill. Now, 
Byakko is capable of inheriting Vile Assault, but is five times more likely to 
inherit a passive skill, such as -- you guessed it -- Elec Amp or Spell Master.

Therefore, in fusing Odin, you could try to load him up with a bunch of 
physical skills; he is Elec-type like Byakko, so his inheritance properties are 
the same. Then, as you fill out his repertoire through leveling, you will have 
to forget skills to make room for the three that you want: Elec Amp at 60, 
Thunder Reign at 63, and Spell Master at 65. At that point, you can forget 
Ziodyne and Maziodyne. In essence, you have swapped them for physical skills 
that are less likely to be inherited than your passive skills will be.

Basically, physical skills can be used as junk in this fusion.

Now, throughout this, I have made no mention of Surt. We don't want any of 
her skills on Byakko, so we still have to deal with his potential noise. Let's 
look at her default skills: Agidyne, Deathbound, Fire Boost, Maragidyne (54), 
Ragnarok (58), and Fire Amp (59).

Deathbound is a physical skill, so for our purposes, it's suitable junk. 

Agidyne, Maragidyne and Ragnarok are the best kind of junk: the kind that 
can't be carried over at all. 

Fire Boost and Fire Amp, however, compete with Elec Amp and Spell Master, so 
we'd like to get rid of them if we can by giving Surt some more junk.

Surt is a Fire-type. Put two and two together...

Like I said, it's not that hard. You can easily create a Surt with a ton of 
Fire skills and forget or reject Fire Boost and Fire Amp when the time comes.

The usage of skill cards makes this task simpler still. Feed your ingredients 
a bunch of junk via skill cards, overwriting noise, and even the toughest 
fusion on paper will be made much easier due to the extent to which you can 
manipulate inheritance mechanics.


   4. Profit!

With these things in mind, you are on your way to carving out your own fusion 
pathways in matching up your favorite skills with your favorite Personas.


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 (2) Bridges                                                            [009d2]


A fusion bridge is what I will call an intermediately fused Persona in a 
particular pathway. For example, in the formula:

1. Hariti x Kingu = Titania
2. Titania x Bishamonten = Ganesha

Titania would be a bridge to Ganesha.

The concept of bridges is important because you can use them as noise filters 
and junk carriers in order to transfer skills from an ingredient to a target of 
a similar inheritance type, where the skills that you want to transfer are NOT 
of that skill type.

What do I mean by this? Let's say you've loaded up Titania with a bunch of 
first-rate passive skills and you want to create a Cybele with those skills. 
Now, creating Cybele from Titania is the easiest thing in the world; a simple 
same-Arcana rank-up fusion of Saki Mitama x Titania x Raphael would get the job 
done. 

Getting those passive skills onto the Cybele, however, is another story. There 
is a ton of noise you'd have to deal with. Since Saki Mitama, Titania, and 
Cybele are all Recovery-types, you're going to have to deal with a bunch of 
unwanted Recovery and Enhance skills. Toss in the fact that passive skills 
compete equally with elemental skills for Recovery-types, and we have a real 
headache.

An alternate strategy would be to use different ingredients to make Cybele and 
use those ingredients as filters. In our example, we want to accumulate as much 
junk on the ingredients as possible with respect to a goal of transferring 
specific passive skills. As a Recovery-type, good junk skills include all three 
types of physical skills, which never transfer, and Light, Dark, and Bad Status 
skills, which are five times less likely to be transferred than passive skills 
are.

Therefore, if we can come up with ingredients for Cybele of those inheritance 
types and put our desired skills on them, while loading up the rest of the 
skill slots for them with assorted junk, we'll likely save a lot of time in the 
Velvet Room as a result.

So, to carry through with my example, one possible formula would be: Nebiros x 
Arahabaki x Mother Harlot, two Bad Status-types and a Dark-type. A simple way 
to get the skills on our Titania to one of these ingredients would be Titania x 
Ubelluris = Nebiros.

Hopefully, I've gotten your wheels turning.

I can't understand it T^T

 

I...think I can explain it to you. >_>

Just give me a few minutes to type everything out. >_>

 

good day to you alllllll

 

Melfice <3333333333333

There's a list of basic fusion possibilities but I dunno which one can be fused from Norn/Skadi and inherit the skill I want T^T

 

Kiroka<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3

 

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