Dude-most people who do that (common problem in australia) usually ignore road rules-distraction-loss of control (most have a hand on the phone...even with loud speaker-they hold the bloody thing) and most of all-these people are commonly idiots-very rare I see one do the right thing. Because of my job-I'm always outside-in a car park. RISKING MY LIFE BECAUSE OF IDIOTS ON MOBILES! ...I see them-they go over the car parks limit of 15kms-holding a mobile... And people call me crazy when I jump outta my car when they hit my bumper weilding a cricket bat...screaming "ROAD RAGE-I'LL SHOW YOU PHONE RAGE!". At least (more often than not) smoking can be confined with less casualties-mobile's while driving are bad-even if not in your hand-the conversation WILL distract you!
I think the people would start to use drugs more. Since cigerettes don't exist, they will find other things to get addicted of
i completely agree, alot of people cant handle driving with a cell phone. but if the argument is distraction from the road then we should be making other "distracting" things illegal. Your radio is a distraction, eating is a distraction, reaching behind your seat to tend to your baby is. Come on hot women are a distraction. There are dozens of common distractions that affect driving. you can still use head sets to talk, but thats worse. people get comfortable with em, and now they have a another free hand to do something else. the point is over regulation. we like to control too much in california. the burden is'nt worth it. thats one of the downsides of america. free do what you want until someone doesnt agree with it. and its always some uptight crazy christian. if they dont like it, then nobody can. the 1% destroy it for the other 99%. making smoking illegal is a perfect example. they already have in calabasas. no smoking outside of you house. because theres enough upset moms who cant stand cigarettes and have enough time to bitch at city council. they have it there way and ruin it for everyone. (i cant stand cigarettes and most people agree. but it's nobody's f***** business)
The taxes are high because the costs (medical incentives or medical care) to undo the effects of smoking are way higher, that's why all governments engaged in stop smoking campaigns. Apart from the health problems associated i just don't do it because i don't want to depend on some crap (literally, there is actual animal crap inside every cigarette) filled tube. Back to health you lose 11 to 23 seconds of life time in every puff, multiply that by every puff on every single cigarette you smoked and add to the ones you probably will have. Oh and not exhale the smoke or keep it inside the mouth or lungs longer increases the number of seconds (some say it may reach a minute).
I tend to agree on all points-and I'm guessing your ethier non religious or like me-catholic that doesn't practice XD ...it seems harsh, about that area where you can't smoke outside your own home... But I think my family would enjoy-mother quit-dad has been trying to brain wash my and my brother-of which us were once athmatic and the stuff drives us insane. But...it's a bit much. ...what happens if one person in a house old smoked while the others were not? And if the backyeard lacks shade during the rain-would that allow them to smoke outside or is that a conumdrum? ...Hrm-I see someone has done thier homework-I'd have to be on the smoker's side in such a case-it's unfair. ... I just wish people would follow the rather "fair" rules we have down here! Not allowed to smoke under public transport waiting areas-bus stand included, restarants (even outside-not allowed within 10 meters) and...in cabs... And yet people break these-and because of how outragously violent these people whodon't care are-people get bashed... Fast food managers doing the right thing (or because someone made a complaint) fellow commuters...taxi drivers (though that isn't new)... ...so much for my black and white views... But if smoking never existed...would we have worse issues? Hrm...ponder I will.
anti-smoking camping never work, it only waste money. also i found gorverment who wage war on drug while allowing nicotine product to be sell is dumb.... nicotine isnt any less drug then heroine and marijuana.
Because it's been accepted for so long it'll affect too many people-if an election occurs people will vote the person who gives them the cigs Plus they get alot of money from the tobbacco companies.
I just wanted to say -to the people who think quitting smoking is easy- I hope your're never in the position of trying to give up. Visit an alcohol or drug rehabilitation clinic. You'll see people who have given up heroin or alcohol - yet they still sit out the front fagging on. Suddenly quitting opiates, alcohol or benzodiazepines can cause seizures or even death - these people successfully beat these addictions but still smoke. I'm on patches at the moment. I have beaten the smoking part- but I am still hooked on nicotine. I'm trying to reduce the strength of the patches but it is still difficult. I have quit before for years at a time but always end up smoking again.
"A nation without vices holds only weak people." Something I find funny is that Cigarrettes are are always talked about like it's such a bad thing, but it's relatively harmless all things considered. Lets face it, you wont find a Cigarette smoker sitting in a detox tank screaming for a fix. Some guy didn't smoke too many Cigarrettes and start beating his family. As far as my knowledge goes, no one's trading sexual favors for a pack of smokes. Hell, let us smokers kill ourselves in peace.
Yeeaaahh. http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=5811 http://www.davehitt.com/facts/ http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xr9wa_104-second-hand-smoke-baby-bullshit_family
yeah..... http://health.howstuffworks.com/understanding-secondhand-smoke-ga.htm http://www.cancer.org/docroot/PED/content/PED_10_2X_Secondhand_Smoke-Clean_Indoor_Air.asp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_smoking#Industry-funded_studies_and_critiques as much as i like Penn and Teller's Bullshit, their are know as "we are fair and very very biased. Fair as in we dont edit people out of context bullshit while biased as we stick to out own conclusion":- Penn. also regarding penn and teller -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penn_%26_Teller:_Bullshit!#.22Secondhand_smoke.22 also use common senses...... IF the smoke intake from the tobacco products contain poison which cause health problem to the smoker, wont the same smoke expell from the smoker's lung contain the same poison? IF the smoke expell from the smoker's lung contain the same poison, so why the same poison cause any problem for the other people who breath in that smoke?
I knew about the first two sites, but never about the Penn and Teller Bullshit! one. I'm going to file that one away for later debates. The harmful chemicals are held primarily in the filter, and most of the compounds the carcinogenic compounds are absorbed in the lungs. The remaining smoke is mostly just a lung irritant. On a somewhat related note, the whole "Shotgun" idea concerning Marijuana doesn't work either, because nearly all of the THC is absorbed into the lungs. And sexual favors being traded for cigarettes... I honestly can't make a defence on that one. Congradulations Sir, you've beaten me at that point. orz
the filter doesnt filter as much as you think, o.k for argument sake, let say the filter able filter 80% of the poison, 20% of the poison go into the smoker's lung, 30% of that 20% poison is expell into air for other, this 30% of 20% might not a big number, but that is for one smoker, how about a place there is two smoker? how about three? like micro transaction, the number add up overtime. also -> http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/library/secondhandsmoke/secondhandsmoke.pdf that is the studies done by U.S. Department of Health and Human Services......
Ah, mistake on my part concerning where. Thanks for the Info. How do you explain people that have worked around smokers for the majority of their life, but have suffered no visible ill effects? The crap that we breath in on a normal basis is worse than second hand smoke. If you've ever lived in an industrial town or major city, your inhaling atleast a pack of cigarettes a day's worth of carcinogenics.
