Slavery...........

An Animal cannot adapt to society. People can, however, adapt to the wilderness. Have you heard of the indigenous groups such as the Yanomamo? Indigenous groups completely prove that humans survive in virtually any environment. Can a dog do the same? Humans can live in extremely cold conditions (eskimo ring a bell?), hot conditions (Ariaal and the Gabra for example?), jungle conditions, etcetera. Humans are very VERY adaptable, though you may not think so. Humans can also, if they are raised in a home of someone in standard society today, do MUCH MUCH more than any animal can in terms of intellectual adaptation. Again, my "can an animal..." argument. Can an animal, pick any type you want, when raised by very intelligent minds and trained in every way, shape, and form, and put through intense lessons on math, for example, come to do even middle-school math? They are not capable of the concept. Can an animal, in ANY case (pick one i guess?), be capable of carrying out an argument such as we are having right now? I think not. You cannot prove to me that animals are smarter than people - sorry, but even the adaptation argument does not apply here.

I usually don't try to discount arguments, but the argument that humans are dumber than animals is the most preposterous claim I have heard in a LONG, LONG time, and perhaps in all my life. I wouldn't be so trigger happy, so to speak, to 'shoot down' the argument, but I have not seen a single shred of evidence that suggests humans are dumber than animals. So please, if you would, let me know when you find an animal capable of doing my taxes >.>

 

Shape/color recognition does not show they are smarter than humans. sorry.

 

I looked into what you were talking about - and those were extremely simple mathematics that could be memorized by shape recognition or just picking up on his trainer's body language when the questions were asked. The horse was not actually performing mathematics. That's why I said middle-school math, because it usually requires at least some simple knowledge of math concepts, not just memorization. Sure, animals can memorize simple things, like the command "sit", but that doesn't make them more intelligent than humans. If you take an indigenous person out of the jungle, you can teach him as much as a regular high-schooler knows. If you take an animal out of the jungle, it's a VERY different story. Animals are not smarter than people. If you really think they are, then why don't you have your dog look over the forum and type your replies for you?

I'm a shut up.

 

padawon1234, if human are so intelligent, then why do human just know how do invent new way to kill each other and the nature, human isnt as intelligent as you think. Out of 100 peoples, 99 of them are idiots

 

I think he meant human beings in general. There are a lot of stupid people out there but there are also a lot of intelligent people too. The sad part is, many of them don't develop their intelligence or have no means to do so. As for people killing each other, it all boils down to money. Most wars are started because of money. Money makes the world go around, makes people do stupid things.

 

well i also saying human being in general..... we might have a biger brain that allow us to have higher intelligent, but that doesnt make us intelligent because most people doesnt seem to use it at all.

and what you said in true, most war begin from resorce management, that is just prove how dump human really are, instead of use our brain to make a way peacefull way to share those resorces, we rely on force to take it.

 

I forgot who said this so I might get it for mis-quoting him/her/them.

"Man is the only species who kill his own kind for personal gratification"

 

"Wild animals never kill for sport. Man is the only one to whom the torture and death of his fellow creatures is amusing in itself."
James Froude

 

There are idiots in the world, but that doesn't mean that animals are more intelligent than humans. That's taking a very low end of human civilization and comparing it to animals. Some people are barbaric, they just are, but does that make us, as a whole, lower than animals? I don't think it does. We can ponder the universe, share our findings with one another, and find answers by intelligence instead of trial and error. That is what I believe separates us from the animals. Our intelligence.

may I ask some questions?

1. Can animals develop languages superior to the complexities of any standardized human language (pick one?), such as English?
2. Can animals produce scientific development within their species, and produce civilizations that improve over time?
3. Can your pet beat you at halo? If it can, let me know cause I want him on my team on xbox live.

 

acutally many finding are base on trial and error, remember the guy who invented light bulb? he tries 99 times and fail, and succesed at the 100th times

to answer your question

1. yes, all animal including insect have languages, and thier languages is compareable in complexity to us, take cat for example thier simple "Meow" may sound simple to us, but if you listen carefully, they have differ pitched and differ lenght in each "Meow" just like our language.

2. many animal and insect are capable in producing civilizations, Lion lives in pack, ants and bees live in colonies much like human do, and like what loony already said, most animal know to consume certain plants and herbs for medical purposes, and most insect know how to utilies the nature to survive, for example certain type of spider (i forget the name) are know to use the wind to carry them and they use thier web as safety line and have you see a termite nest? they are know to build perfect ventilation system for thier huge colonies, something human have fail to do, some researcher are being to study termite nests inorder to build an effective ventilation system, i belive that field of study is call biomimicry, not to mention ants are know to growth certain type of fangus so they can harvest them for food and some of them are know to raise plant flee so they can harvest the honey much like human who raise cow for milk and plant vagetable for food.

3. can you out run cheeta with your foot? gaming is develop by human for entertaiment, do you know that animal also have thier own game for entertaiment? most of the game that develop by the animal actually perpare that animal to face the real world when it growth up, can your halo make you a sharp shooter? i doubt it.

 

We don't know the answer to that because we can't understand what the heck they're saying. So I say yes, since we haven't managed to translate it yet, they can make more complex languages then us.

Again, yes, the most likely can. But again, we need to understand what they're saying before we can know.

Uh....completely irrelevant much? They don't have thumbs, so no. And are you a Halo junkie?

 

Ye we are Slaves to the System. But if we wasnt Slaves to the System then there would be Kaos (i dont no how to spell it) around the World. World Wars. we are slaves to the System becuase if we are Set to be Slaves to something thats Equal and fair then we will have Minimum Problems becuase were all following a Set of rules. Think of it this way.

If everyone in the world was a Christain, Following the 10 Comandments and the Bible as a Life Guideline. There would be No Murders (Excluding Natural / Enviromental Murder), No Adultary, No Theift, Homeless People Wont be Homeless becuase well be Helping each other Etc.

So since you cant Force people to Follow a Religion, we have Laws that we Must Abay. These Laws AKA The Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Yet again, we cannot Force people to do what we want, Thats why we need Responsibility.

Slavary Is breaking The Universal Declaration of Human Rights So it is wrong, regardless of what you think. its wrong.

 

Naa i ment as in if everyone believe the same shit. becuase there is a few Christain types. Catholics Etc.

Ye it is like other Documents but its a Prime. Its goes 1st over everything. they did it to try and Provent Wars Like WWI & WWII.
I Believe its pritty fair

 

1- Slavery is wrong; life is important!
2- Padawon; I want to hurt you.
You are a stupid idiot! You ignore evidence, you think humans are superior and you think you know alot about animals, you know f*ck all!
3- Pets are not slaves they are family members and end up becoming dependant on the family so they have respect.

 

in what manner is it important?