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Should the death penalty be applied to murderers of all ages?

Discussion in 'Debates' started by wtfroms, Jan 7, 2009.

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  1. gaynorvader

    gaynorvader Well-Known Member

    Thank you, I've actually thought something similar, minor criminals should be made to farm, more serious crimes could have some other labour. I think some prisons in the US have tried this to some degree of success.
     
    gaynorvader, Aug 24, 2009
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  2. dhanash

    dhanash Well-Known Member

    i saw a movie when the prisoners were chained to one another and they would be breaking rocks or something like that, yea they could do that
     
    dhanash, Aug 24, 2009
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  3. royj

    royj Well-Known Member

    i agree with you about who it really affects. but that is irrevalent. tha fact is that the crime was commited. leys make a comparison on who who willl have a greater pain. the murderes family or the victems family?? is a clear case. both of them died but the thing is that one is innocent and died at the creul hand at another insane criminal and the other died owing to the creul heart less selfish wicked act he has commited.
     
    royj, Aug 24, 2009
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  4. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    chain gangs did actually get used, although in the UK I think thats going back to victorian times. (there were also workhouses back then). One of our political parties is actually trying to bring chain gangs back, albeit slightly updated, i.e electronic tags instead of chains.
     
    Loonylion, Aug 24, 2009
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  5. dhanash

    dhanash Well-Known Member

    well that would be very usefull and they should aim to make them see that they shouldn't have commited the crime... not give them luxury and everything else
     
    dhanash, Aug 25, 2009
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  6. redoperator

    redoperator Well-Known Member

    free labor? sounds good, they can fix the roads and patch buildings
     
    redoperator, Aug 25, 2009
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  7. dhanash

    dhanash Well-Known Member

    yea... stuff like those.... most social work though..
    that would do good.. but they should make it hard!
     
    dhanash, Aug 25, 2009
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  8. redoperator

    redoperator Well-Known Member

    oh its funny, the united states that is... to be in the marines you have to have a high-school diploma. to be in the army you just need to show up. in the marines you need a almost spotless crimimal record, in the army you can serve your jail sentence there. i think its hilarious
     
    redoperator, Aug 25, 2009
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  9. gaynorvader

    gaynorvader Well-Known Member

    Yes, but my point is that the criminal isn't punished all that harshly. He/she lives in relative comfort until he/she dies a painless death. Why shouldn't they be made to suffer? Why not be punished brutally?
     
    gaynorvader, Aug 25, 2009
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  10. dhanash

    dhanash Well-Known Member

    because that is just inhumane..... would you carry out that sentence if you had a choice?
     
    dhanash, Aug 25, 2009
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  11. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    and what the criminal did to the victim and the victims family is humane?
     
    Loonylion, Aug 25, 2009
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  12. dhanash

    dhanash Well-Known Member

    What made them do that? i'm sure a little kid wouldn't decide to go kill a person for no reason. I'm sure he/she must have been going through some sort of problems and hardship in their lives, so technically it wouldnt be their fault... since they might have taken it out of anger or some other uncontrollable emotion
     
    dhanash, Aug 25, 2009
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  13. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    Actually in a lot of cases it IS intentional and premediated. Look up Jamie Bulger
     
    Loonylion, Aug 25, 2009
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  14. 1prinnydood

    1prinnydood Guest

    The death penalty should not be applied, ever. Murder is murder.
     
    1prinnydood, Aug 25, 2009
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  15. dhanash

    dhanash Well-Known Member

    that was very interesting mr loony.... i am in shock right now.... why did they choose to do that must have been a pyscological problem
     
    dhanash, Aug 26, 2009
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  16. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    they were not diagnosed with any in the psychiatric assessment, the evidence stated it was intentional and rationalised.
     
    Loonylion, Aug 26, 2009
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  17. gaynorvader

    gaynorvader Well-Known Member

    Yes. Someone committing murder one, in my opinion, should have a leg amputated or something similar. It means, not only will they be punished, it'll also be a lot harder for them to repeat their offence.
     
    gaynorvader, Aug 26, 2009
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  18. dhanash

    dhanash Well-Known Member

    @loony
    is that the only case like that?
    and in my opinion...... something MUST have been wrong with them..... two 10 year old thinking like that?..... whoa... maybe someone got to them... put stuff intheir head... . i just still cant believe that story
     
    dhanash, Aug 26, 2009
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  19. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    its the worst case in recent times. Not the only case. Because the boys were under 16 when they committed the crime, they were/will be released at 18 and their criminal record will be erased. They will also be issued new identities to stop the public going after them.
     
    Loonylion, Aug 26, 2009
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  20. supertanno

    supertanno Well-Known Member

    No. Under the age of 18, people can't really think properly. The 10-year old kid would regret it a second after he killed his parents.
     
    supertanno, Aug 26, 2009
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