Sexual Orientation and Gay Marriage - Thoughts?

One of the hardest things for me to cope with was seeing him deteriorate. Remembering how he used to be, and seeing how he was just before he died. Seeing him like that made me cry for the first time in years. I miss my friend. He taught me a lot. He taught me tolerance, acceptance, and to be open minded. I've never known anyone else like him before, and I can dare say that I never will again. His truly was a friendship that was one of a kind. One of the things that hurts the most is the fact that the last time I saw him alive, he had contracted (P.M.L.) leukoencephalopathy. He couldn't put his thoughts into words, the bridge between mind and mouth were broken. Which I thought was a travesty, because his was a beautiful mind indeed. He was a prisoner in his own mind. I can only imagine the torment he felt not being able to express himself verbally, (he never had that problem) he was a very outspoken person.

Thank you for your condolences 9Nine, I appreciate it. You as well have my sympathies for your family member. I have seen first hand what this dreaded disease can and will do to a person. No one deserves to suffer like that, I don't care how they lived their life. About the only thing you can do for someone is treat them like a person, and make them as comfortable as possible. The last thing they need is to be reminded constantly that they are going to die. I hope you have many long years ahead with them 9Nine, and may they be good years.

 

That reminds me of something actually...
I was hanging out with a group of friends and one said
"Look at that faggot holding hands with another man"
My reply was
"If you are so interested in him being gay go and shag him because honestly I don't care if they are as long as they aren't being overly annoying or causing any harm..."
After that quite a few people started laughing until they noticed I was being serious...

 

I generally do the exact same thing - if someone says "This computer is so gay!" or something to that effect, I always retort "Yes, that computer is so homosexual." ... though that boils entirely down to my finding the use of the word "gay" as "stupid"... well, stupid. But whenever someone rants on and on about someone being gay, or constantly can't stop making references to their being altogether not very straight (which is, admittedly, me most of the time, but still), I say unto them:

"You know, you should just [HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH] him and get it over with, 'cus the suspense is killing us."

Seriously though, why does everyone feel the need to point things like this out? Either is incredibly obvious or no one cares, and I really can't see why people are so obsessed with pointing these things out. Yes, my voice is entirely too high and I'm not pounding brews (or whatever the hell the macho men are supposed to be doing at the wonderful age of sixteen, I don't know and I really don't give a flying *ahem*), but why does it friggen' matter? I say - the only time someone's sexual orientation should really matter if they're hitting on you, because it's either completely creepy or a godsend.

 

I have some gay friends, and they flirt with me -.-

I think they're messing with me, because they only do that when I hang out with a group of girls...

 

G marriage

I bet they just flip when you say something to them, it serves 'em right

 

Sad to see an important issue hijacked by AIDS
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Been thinking about my comment and to be honest it must stand, how come this chat that relates to queer love gets the AIDS treatment? I am sorry that some person lost a friend because of HIV but HIV is not a gay thing. Falling in love and being in love does not mean you will get sick regardless of your sexuality

 

its not like if two chicks try to get married the FBI is gonna bust in and shoot everyone.

 

Ok..... So where are you going with that?

 

"Hijacked" would imply that the topic was taken over, which it hasn't - apophos commented that he had a gay friend who had died, and I replied that I can at least begin to somewhat understand, as I have a family member in the same boat. That's the end of all AIDS-related comments (unless I totally spaced out for the past month and missed other mentions). Sorry for sounding like an ass, but we at no time stated that apophos' friend got AIDS because he was gay - perhaps he did, I dunno, and I really don't feel like asking - nor did we state that anyone ELSE got HIV or AIDS due to their sexual orientation.

Though I do thank you for the comment, anyways - should this more directly into the realm of HIV and/or AIDS, I'll just quote you and say no more XD

Maybe... something about... were gay marriage legal... those getting married are not... going to die...?

I think that makes sense.

... I think.

 

Legal? thats risky i think.....every country have its own foundation...like religion...or rules
think again......we're gonna break the rules.....
and second...what do you think if you saw 2 guy kissing freely in front of your eyes?

 

First reaction... shock because it's something "new" to me.

Give or take several seconds to regain composure.... maybe they're a gay couple.

A minute or two later.... Exhibitionists (maybe?) who cares if they were kissing!

A failed relationship ending in a break up later... *sniff* Aw, why me.... I envy those gay couples happily in love with each other *sniff*

 

i like watching live buttsex

 

Alright, let me set this straight. I never said that AIDS was a gay disease. I'm not that naive. If it were then no one else in the world would ever get it. I know several people that are homosexual that are living long healthy and productive lives. All I was trying to accomplish was sharing a story about a friend of mine that opened my eyes to the bigger picture of things. That sexual preference doesn't make you any less a person or make you a bad person. Those of a different sexual orientation than someone else does not deserve to be mistreated.

I'm sorry that you didn't understand what I was saying.

And in closing, thank you 9Nine for defending what I was saying. Thank you.

 

That isn't the point of this thread, plus it's a little bit inappropriate

 

@ apophos & 9Nine, I owe both of you an apology, i was very tired when i wrote what i did, although that is no excuse, i should pay more attention. So real sorry for my misunderstanding. I guess i was trying to point out that HIV/AIDS is not a gay issue but something that affects all of society, i made my point very badly, and in retrospect, somewhat offensively. I will to be more constructive in the future.

 

I myself wasn't offended, and you owe no apology. I have come to understand that there are some things people feel very passionate about. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, regardless of what another might think. One final thing before I conclude this, what would be the point of having a forum for people to have discussions and debates if they couldn't share their opinions freely. Tolerance and acceptance are qualities that I possess now, thanks to my friend that 9Nine and I were talking about. I only wish that he had more time to touch other people's lives as well.

 

That is not funny or nice to read in a serious debate, this topic isn't even about if gays are acceptable...

Well all I would do is look away like what I do when I see anybody kissing, and about legality and riskyness: YOU ARE A MEMBER OF A ROM SITE! ¬_¬ Secondly: Law is meant to enable free-will but still protect living creatures, if law does not do 1 of two then I ignore it and if you love somebody that's even more a reason to ignore it.

As I believe names don't really matter but in an argument that can go both ways, honestly if 'marriage' is so important then get 'married' regardless but yet again that can go both ways as in saying why can't gays have an equivalent with a different name? But that's just prejudice, the only real difference is that religion may be different...

 

Seriously....all that zaheen is referring to is apparently a fetish of his........which is okay to have, but this wasn't the place to state that fact.

 

That's what I meant, I think he's doing that post as a joke though and this is a debate as I said, if he wants to post it then he can post somewhere that talks about his fetish

 

Hehe, that's perfectly fine - it's not as if we've never made a post in the twilight, only to remember that it makes no sense in the morning.

Yup - no harm, no foul. And I wholeheartedly agree with you, Apophos - the beauty of this format is that we can bring people from different places in the world (and quite unique to this forum, from many different parts of the world, whereas other forums tend to underplay their minorities) and share our opinions on everything. I personally enjoy some nice healthy arguments, and when my actual life cannot satisfy that (note to self: don't attempt serious arguments at school. EVER.), I can turn to that amazing Internets, instead.

I could easily take that in a direction that would probably scar humanity and create something along the lines of the next Fallout game, so I'm just going to echo the rest of the seriousness and state that random statements as to your liking of "buttsex" are not really what we're looking for here.


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And we need someone to contribute some more dialogue to this whole topic thing - hundred posts or so in and we don't really have anyone adding some new thoughts or perspectives. We should get one of those mod-types in here. That would be extremely interesting.