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School is waste of time.

Discussion in 'Debates' started by calvin_0, Oct 23, 2010.

  1. calvin_0

    calvin_0 Well-Known Member

    Everyone go to school, our parent ground us if we skip school, the law require everyone to attend school, even lowest paying job require you to graduated from school. basically School is very importance, but is it?

    what do school teach us? what skill do we learn from school really? what we learn from school are totally useless in the real world unless you work in certain field.

    like history, so i know someone call alexender the great, so what? knowing that contribute nothing the real world.

    or geography, so i know the tallest mountain is call everest... so what? its not like i get a promotion by knowing how tall mount everest is.

    also some part of math, who remember those stupid question involve "you leave at X time, your destination is X meters and you are traveling at X speed, what is the time when you reach your destination?" whats the point of knowing how to solve that when in the real world, you dont really know how far is your destination or what speed your train is going.

    seriously almost 80% of what i learn from school is totally useless... and to think my mom keep yelling and paying overcharge tutor to help with my grade, learning useless stuff.

    so what do you think? is school really importance?
     
  2. CoolKill3r

    CoolKill3r Well-Known Member

    People can say whatever they like but you learn quite alot from school.
    And you learn to be with other people witch is also a good thing.

    - Whenever you skip school ect then think about this:
    In other country's clilderen work all day for money to go to school and to be able to do something in life!
    SO BE HAPPY WITH THE FACT THAT YOU CAN GO TO SCHOOL!
     
  3. tehuber1337

    tehuber1337 Well-Known Member

    Re: School is wste of time.

    School isn't just about facts. It's about developing critical thinking and problem solving skills. Anyone who thinks those skills aren't necessary in life is downright retarded.

    School also acts as an institution to supervise the physical, mental and emotional growth of children, especially through turbulent and rebellious teenage years. First love, youthful mistakes, friendships and conflicts all help to shape who you are and how you view life.

    Besides that, going to school simply provides endless opportunities to create fun memories you can fondly look back on in later years.

    inb4 kids ignoring my generous wisdom in favour of angst
     
  4. darkrequiem

    darkrequiem Well-Known Member

    Yes, as all the highest paying jobs require special skills that you can learn in college. In order to get into college, you need to have passed the different levels of school before that. So essentially, school is just a training ground for college.

    And algebra is highly important for various jobs. Language classes are obviously always helpful, and history teaches one something they honestly should care about.
    Also, extracurricular activities let us practice and improve our hobbies while also looking better on applications.
     
  5. calvin_0

    calvin_0 Well-Known Member

    yes, you learn alot, but most of them are useless. so i dont see failing some of those are going to affect my life latter on. example, i fail history, math and advance math in high school, it doesnt affect my life at all.

    well i'm not sure about that, the only school memory i have is study and study, (after the school, i have tutor and also tons of homework)

    also we can develop social skill in playground just as well as in school. plus teacher dont teach us how to make friend.

    example?
     
  6. Suiseiseki

    Suiseiseki Well-Known Member

    School up til the end of high school is meant to give you a more general basis in problem solving and social dynamics, as well as offering the widest possible range of subjects to cater for everyone.

    You don't like history/geography? Too fucking bad, plenty of other people do and they aren't going to restructure a curriculum based on what you want. Stop feeling so fucking entitled and suck it up, you're learning how to be a productive human being in school. Specialist training in stuff you like is what university is for.

    I can tell you right now before he gets here that Hypr in particular uses maths he learned in high school every single day for his job as an engineer, and I use methods I learned in school for extrapolation and modelling of problems and possible solutions. Just because you're too much of a closed-minded twat to consider the ramifications of what you're learning doesn't mean school is useless. You never know what you'll need to know.
     
  7. darkrequiem

    darkrequiem Well-Known Member

    An example of things you should learn from history class that you should care about?
    How about the history of your country, the world, humans? How could you honestly not care?
    On that note, what is your response to the rest of what I've said? Please don't just ignore everything else I said.
     
  8. CoolKill3r

    CoolKill3r Well-Known Member

    what if you fail at history?
    for example you learn to spell ect and others cdidnt learn it but they know history now!
    and you do know about histery abit now do you! or not!
     
  9. calvin_0

    calvin_0 Well-Known Member

    but knowing that contribute nothing later in your life.. so whats the point? knowing just for the sake of knowing? if that the case then why do we need to pass the test?

    so you can count those are specialize job skill, so why everyone should know it? its not universal knowledge like counting money and time.

    and yes, i do hate history and geography, and especially hate maths.

    and before anyone start thinking, this is just some kid ranting about school. i already graduated from college almost 10 years ago and currently working as an IT technician.
     
  10. darkrequiem

    darkrequiem Well-Known Member

    Regardless of whether you hate history or not, you need to understand it. If you ever hope on voting in future elections, please do not vote without knowing the history of your country or the world. History repeats itself constantly. Studying the past is the best way to understand our current political situations. Whether you're interested in history or not does not matter, as history affects your government, and your government fully affects your life.

    Math, grammar, and the arts are vital for obvious reasons, as they are here and now. But history is still important despite having past, for history is being made now.
     
  11. Sparks97

    Sparks97 Well-Known Member

    School is something you need in life. You develop "skills for success" throughout your time going. So, school is NOT a waste of time. Other kids in Africa for example are working their butts off trying to learn a dang thing! As CoolKill3r said, be thankful you can actually go to school. >.>
     
  12. trimbletown

    trimbletown Well-Known Member

    Too...stupid...a thread...IT BURNS!
    I foresee how this will end. Someone delivering a brutal shutdown and you backing away to get back to your studies so that you don't end up making another thread like this.
     
  13. Suiseiseki

    Suiseiseki Well-Known Member

    Well how are we supposed to know which kids are going to take engineering as opposed to the arts as opposed to sports? In my high school we got to choose our subjects somewhat. The compulsory things were the basics of maths and English, which are required for all jobs. Most people in my final year didn't take Calculus because they didn't need it (and to be fair, they really didn't need to have in-depth knowledge of derivation), but it was offered because people like me and my friends did need it. One's off training to be a doctor, another two to be surveyors, and another two again as engineers.

    Not everyone was taught specialised skills, but there are things that SHOULD be known among all students. The basics of economics, country history, elementary politics, the basics of physical education; they're all things that - although aren't necessary for a given career - give a student a good general knowledge base to fall back on.

    EDIT: You want to see what happens when kids don't get a decent general education? Go watch some British or American daytime TV. It's terrifying.
     
  14. calvin_0

    calvin_0 Well-Known Member

    i dont vote. i dont really care who rule malaysia.
     
  15. trimbletown

    trimbletown Well-Known Member

    If you were half-educated you WOULD care.
     
  16. darkrequiem

    darkrequiem Well-Known Member

    Well, that is apathy.
    People have given up their lives so that others may vote. You seem to have no idea how much power voting gives civilians.
    If most people were like you and didn't care about voting, the world would be even more in ruin than now.
     
  17. Suiseiseki

    Suiseiseki Well-Known Member

    Most people do. Making informed decisions is something you learn at school.

    Basically, this all comes down to "I don't like/use this in my comfortable little niche, so why is it being taught?" Because most kids don't have a decent, realistic idea of what they want to do when they're 7 years old. You need to make the choice, and to make the choice WELL you need to have basic skills from every area so you can have the most opportunities open to you when you have the maturity to decide what to do with your life.
     
  18. trimbletown

    trimbletown Well-Known Member

    The reason to attend school is evident in your having created this thread. If you were educated well you would understand that school is one of the most important part of your life. It'a where you learn to be who you are. It's where you learn how to make your mark on the world. It's where you learn that THREADS LIKE THIS SHOULD NOT EXIST!
     
  19. calvin_0

    calvin_0 Well-Known Member

    then why there is test after test, if they are just for the sake of knowing rather then a real skill, why should they care if you pass or fail. everytime i fail my history, my teacher always make it sound like my life depend on it.

    if you live in malaysia and not malay, you wont care because it doesnt matter who in charge.
     
  20. yoshi2889

    yoshi2889 Well-Known Member

    He's saying that you learn alot of unnessecary things on school, which is true.

    Here's a list of what I think is unnessecary:
    - Topography. Why would I need that? You have maps....
    - History. Yeah, booooooooring. Why must I care what happened in the past?
    - Music. I can go play an instrument if I want. Why must I do it at school...
    - Latin/French/English. Why must we learn those languages? Besides, I already know English...
    - Love. Sure, love lessons on school...