routine infant circumcision

My personal motto is to beat up anybody who eats dog meat or is cruel towards dogs , looks like I won't be allowed or want to go to the phillipines... That's sick, now that is a part of your culture that should be stopped! Circumcision isn't too bad but that's just wrong!
That's sick

 

that avatar is like a perfect expression of your feeling! ;D

 

vegan?

oh please dog meat tastes great I bet you wouldn't eat beef either if you had a pet cow that you took care of and everything. Fact is everything that is meat that you eat was 1.) alive 2.) and killed <- I don't care how you did it, taking a life is intrinsically cruel no matter what, so all that humane nonsense is really just a bunch of crap.

the ironic thing here is even though I'm flip I ate dog meat in China so its not just a Filipino thing, I mean we Filipinos think that eating rabbits are cruel since they're cute and fluffy but do we bitch about it to the English(<- generalizing over here don't mind it) ? Nah. Fact is if it can sustain life, you're gonna eat it but since we're getting way out of topic here XD back to chopping of floppy skin

1st... you pull and shoot did it before i was cut, still did it the same way till now

4th... I can do that even if I'm circumcised

 

*sigh* so it's now down to bashing other people's cultures ain't it?

Well if that's the way you guys feel, then why don't you go ahead & tell the Alaskan folk to stop eating Seal, Walrus & penguin meat why don't you?

Or make the Japanese stop eating octopi, sea urchins & shark meat while you're at eat?

Culture is relative to those who follow it, as I said earlier.

And an outsider can never make the natives change their ways so easily, unless you go & massacre all of them.

Oh & thank you sla0ers for logging on, it's hard to put up an argument here on "our" belief structure on my own you know. Man if only Bhatooth & clyffe were here.

 

Female circumcision is actual mutilation of the female genitals.
That's why it is banned.

 

I haven't exactly "left" I've just been lurking around hiding in the shadows

well let's remember the main point of the topic Routine Infant Circumcision, its not whether its useful or not. The reason I believe that RIC should be practiced here in the Philippines is that heck they're gonna do it in 10 to 12 years time anyway so might it as well get it over with while he's still young since circumcision here is more than a "mainstream" thing. If its about a matter of choice I believe as parents they are looking out for the best interest of their child and if they believe that giving him circumcision as an infant, what makes you say that they mutilated their child? They were just looking out for the interest of their child in their own way unless you think that their parents are such assholes that they just wanted to do it for the heck of it. I mean there's also routine ear piercing for female babies but are we talking about that right now? I think we should since it makes just as un"natural" as circumcision? since you're just removing a bit of skin XD

 

If you can't handle criticism for something, then don't do it. No one in their right mind would actually consider any topic outside the realm of criticism unless they themselves practiced something they got easily 'offended' about.

If you believe it, you'd better damn well be willing to defend it.
And if you can't defend it, you'd best be ready to change your mind at the drop of a hat.
If you expect others to 'respect your culture' or 'respect your ways' simply because you can't defend them, then why are you on the debate board.

This topic IS about circumcision and that's exactly what I'm criticizing in your culture. If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen. :

 

no its not, the topic's about routine infant circumcision

 

The fact is (Circumcision, I don't to get in a terrible mood again if I argue about turds of the bass killing dogs because they think it's their clever little culture) many kids don't want circumcision but are pushed into it by their parents, some stupid culture isn't worth the pain of circumcision in my opinion, get over yourselves, humans have too many cultures as it is, it's like bloody religion, do you think I like the new chav culture in my country, no, I don't, majority isn't always right and cultures cause problems!

 

That includes other cultures where infants are routinely circumcised.

 

This is what happens when 4 people are intensely debating... (semi-ranting)
Well, anyways I will not have my mind changed about this subject but will any of the others?... Who knows?

 

not in our culture, so your criticism is wrong

Oh please Get over YOURself.
Honestly majority is never right because there's something called the minority. Nothing in the world is right because people disagree about EVERYTHING.

What's the major difference between corned beef and dog meat on a plate? NOTHING they taste the same, they look the same and heck they even smell the same. If they didn't tell you it was dog you'd assume it was beef. Just goes with the saying If it looks like shit, smells like shit and tastes like shit, It must be shit.

cleaver little culture my ass I find that remark highly sarcastic and condescending.

Why won't your mind change. Because you have your own values and beliefs that stem from where Oh Jesus where... I can feel the answer Oh hot damn your CULTURE and some life experience here and there.

 

If "Culture" reacts like that sla03rs then eventually you must realize that "Culture" starts anger and arguments, that's why it's a bag of crap! In my opinion dogs are almost sentient beings, do you see gangs of dogs though ganging up on humans that kill dogs? No! If a dog kills a human though, it's get out the gun and kill the dog! I'd tell you where to shove your culture but then that would be against forum rules!

And just because i'm not an adult yet it doesn't mean I don't have life experience, it's obvious you need some! Now get back on topic!

Cicumcision isn't a benefit and you already know what I think about culture...^

 

Culture isn't the problem, its the people that believe their culture is the only correct one that causes the anger and arguments. You need to realize that people all over the world have different views on all sorts of issues and that they'll continue to live by their own rules regardless of whether you think that some of the things they do are "wrong".

I'm getting tired of the attacks in here, if I see it again, Its not going to end well, so if you would, please do try to keep it civil from this point on.

 

never said you didn't have life experience, i only said that your belief and value system has been molded by your culture (no matter even if you say you hate it) thanks to what you have experienced in your life up to the present/molding of your parents. You didn't even get the point :|.

Why are we even arguing about foreskins, its a floppy sack of skin that serves little to no purpose, had it, never missed it.

Should we then argue that people pearl(beading) their wiener in Japan for every year that they are in Jail because they're in the Yakuza. Don't give me BS that they're adults and have their "free choice", if you think about it, its all about peer pressure and them wanting to get the sense of acceptance

 

For me having circumcised was both a choice & a force thing.

It was a personal choice, because I wanted to follow tradition, and it was forced, because the style or cut of the circumcision wasn't mine to say.

And about cultural mutilation & such, so are you saying that the women of an African tribe who purposely overstretch their earlobes with heavy earings "as a beautifying measure", based on their culture bizarre or barbaric?

Or how about that Papua New Guinean tribe where women wear rings of neckbraces to elongate their necks, are they absurd?

Another is that African tribe whose men, slit their mouths & put round wooden discs in it to alter the shape of the mouth

And yet another tribe, purposely alter the shape of their teeth to resemble fangs.

On outsiders points of views, these are sadistic barbaric rites, but are you really sure? Ask said peoples if said rites are offensive, & chances are, they will say that, that pleases them & it's their way of life.

Oh, and about the dog meat thing, if you're thinking we eat dog regularly, you're wrong.

Dog meat is usually, rather rarely prepared on special occasions, like when there's a large get together of friends or family. Or during drinking binges, which is the most often occasion & slao3rs is right, unless someone told you you were eating dog you won't be able to tell, as the taste is kind of like beef.

 

Mutton Chops are back in style?

 

This either says you're being sarcastic, you're being rude or just plain ignorant

Here are some links I researched for you to read, so you might be educated:

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Also for your information, the "Filipino cut" as we call it is the so called "moderate cut", read the links, but mine is the "German V cut" or the so called "loose cut", but unlike what's on the links, my cut only has the upper part of the foreskin removed with the lower half remaining, making the head look like it has a hood on it.

here's my post on the "traditional Filipino way" of circumcision

Now tell me who gives arguments with no data resource backing?

Indeed...

 

If dog meat tastes the same as beef eat a bloody cow instead...
And I think we ought to have a culture debate thread for what we're arguing about, I personally quit on this thread unless someone directly posts at me. Bye