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R4 cards & clones

Discussion in 'Technical Help' started by yoshi2889, Mar 26, 2010.

  1. kyrodon

    kyrodon Guest

    It's not a clone =.='
     
  2. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    M3 and R4 have always been pretty close to identical (i'm talking pre DSi here) if I remember correctly, you used to be able to convert an M3 to an R4 and vice versa by soldering/desoldering two points on the PCB and then installing the other firmware.
     
  3. kyrodon

    kyrodon Guest

    I believe that's true.
     
  4. Inunah

    Inunah Well-Known Member

    So they could be secretly making R4gsc46?
     
  5. yoshi2889

    yoshi2889 Well-Known Member

    Should I add M3 to the list?
     
  6. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    extremely unlikely.

    no, its not a clone, it was developed alongside the R4.
     
  7. yoshi2889

    yoshi2889 Well-Known Member

    Ok, but I'm confused as I do not know where this is going...
     
  8. kyrodon

    kyrodon Guest

    I think you should just keep researching all the r4 clones :)
     
  9. yoshi2889

    yoshi2889 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, and my DSi is running low at power so that comes tomorrow at my desktop PC.
     
  10. kyrodon

    kyrodon Guest

    I'll help by searching then :)
     
  11. yoshi2889

    yoshi2889 Well-Known Member

    Not needed, I create a TXT and save everything I find in it.
     
  12. zFlea

    zFlea Active Member

    Man the argument that all the new cards are clones of the R4 (Acekard, Cyclo, Edge, etc.) is a terrible argument
    It takes competition to make a better project.
    Can Microsoft sue Sony because they the PS3 also uses disks??? No.
    There are so many examples of how you're wrong man.
     
  13. kyrodon

    kyrodon Guest

    But i already sent a pm with some.........
     
  14. Inunah

    Inunah Well-Known Member

    ...I know of a video that asks if Sony can be sued for the use of disks for games. XD
     
  15. zFlea

    zFlea Active Member

    lol
     
  16. yoshi2889

    yoshi2889 Well-Known Member

    Whatever. Thanks anyway ;)

    Of who is wrong? Me?
    Acekard is no clone,
    CycloDS is no clone,
    EDGE is no clone,
    M3i Zero is no clone,
    etc.
     
  17. OXOBloxo

    OXOBloxo Well-Known Member

    Calling all cards with R4 in their name a CLONE is a bit misleading anyway, Clone means identical, which all these R4 cards are not, they have been based on the original R4 idea and have developed at different paces and quality, but they are not identical clones they have just chosen to use the sucess of the brand name R4 in their brand name, as the original R4 is no longer under copyright.

    If you think about it, they had to do that, as most people only knew the flashcart as the R4... and most casual users would search for it by R4, more advance users kinda know that there are better flashcarts out their now... the next mainstream trend is always started by just a few hardcore users.... (Acekard?)
     
  18. yoshi2889

    yoshi2889 Well-Known Member

    Clone doesn't mean FULLY identical.
    The R4 clones have some other hardware, and they have their own kernel.

    Examples:
    The people get the R4, open it, make changes and create a kernel for it. - That's a clone.
    The people make their own card. - That's no clone. But if they use the hardware of the R4 for it, it is a clone though.
     
  19. OXOBloxo

    OXOBloxo Well-Known Member

    Im saying its misleading, so many people think they have bought a "fake" when told they have a clone card.
     
  20. yoshi2889

    yoshi2889 Well-Known Member

    They have a fake card, yes. It is not the R4DS original, so it is a fake original.