Premarital sex or marriage first?

cj you can have a marriage and it have nothing to do with religion. just cause someone is an atheist its not an excuse to be a dick head.
one day you will find a woman (or man if that's your boat) that will make you happy and you want to show a symbol of your love that shows you are committed to someone for life.

you don't have to get married if you don't want to but it doesn't have to do with religion at all you can get married for any reason.

it may be a silly old tradition but someday it may mean something to you. and it may seem that sometimes it means nothing when you have people getting married within a year of knowing each other or divorcing because they don't know how to work at a relationship.

and yes you can have a bond without marriage but some people like being able to show and prove their bond to each other and those around them.

man your so pessimistic i wonder if you just haven't had enough life experience or you just want too piss over everybody, lighten up some people have a different opinion you don't need to bash them for it.
you remind me of me as a teenager, i just hope you can get some life experience and not be so negative toward everything

 

It seems to me that this is falling on a bias page in which it's aethist's versus christains once again. Huh, I've had enough with that. The simple fact is we're each goin' to ignore each other's opinions and keep arguing about it for days. Someone needs to be well seasoned on both sides of the fence and be completley neutral for any finish to come to this. And, still even if by some degree of miracle that in this thread the people who support pre-maritail sex prooved to us that there is no point in waiting, even so I still wouldn't be comfortable enough with a girl in my bed to "operate" so I'll leave this little "debate" until what I predicted up there comes true, tah tah.

 

in philippines theres only anullment and whats different form anullment and divorce?

 

for me, marriage first, but for other "horny" people, premarital sex is way better, ( mostly the "1-night stand type )

Marriage is an agreement, a contract which the man and the woman agrees to stay together, and pro-create together. Premarital sex is just a sex to release some sexual pressure. Premarital sex is not so different with masturbating, and the only difference between the two is, when your masturbating, you do it alone while premarital sex is with a real, live person. If you get married, you agree to establish a family with the parent and children type-setting.

So if you dont want kids, please, dont get married and just have sex.

I want to see a situation where you agree to get married but have no plan to have kids. For me, most people who marries but dont want to have kids are just reserving their mates so that their mates wont go find other people.

 

I hate the stereotype that people who have premarital sex are these "horny, slutty, party, clubbers". I'm pretty open with my girlfriend about sex. At the beginning of the relationship, we established the "ground rules". Either we could have responsible sex now, or wait until marriage. After an arduous conversation, we chose the former. And I don't regret that fact, as it has probably changed my perspective of life (ok, exaggerating, but still...). I have nothing against marriage, but please, understand that not all premarital sex is horny people going on one night stands with strangers.

 

I'm Sorry, I'm not generalizing all people. Thats why i said, "others". I just hate some people i know who have sex without marriage then when the girl is pregnated, he is forced to marry. Then after a few, weeks or months, they will regret having sex.

Maybe I'm just very Conservative. Sorry for that.

 

Trust me, sex is near the bottom of priorities on couples that get married. You never should want to marry someone just because the sex is good.

Back on topic, I see no problem with premarital relations. People will be people, no use in trying to slap a morality sticker on it to try to make people feel bad. I say all this from a completely religionless standpoint. Which I believe religion has a big part in this subject.

 

I know that it doesn't have to be religious based but it came from religion so if you aren't of that religion there isn't a need to think of it as important. And I see that it may be important to some people to prove something but can't there be an alternative. Well I guess I shouldn't get so annoyed and negative, thanks

 

but how do you show your love without your pants?! words sometimes feel like they're meaningless now a days. so how do you show you love them without sex? i'm just curious as to what people would say.

 

It's up to you to decide. If you have the compulsion to "sample the milk before you buy the cow" then go ahead. No one's stopping you. Just make sure to play it safe alright, you wouldn't want to overpopulate the earth.

 

no one wants a bad cow.

 

That's not love, that's lust. Feeling sexually interested with someone is not the same as being in love with them, though it's a part of it.

How can you show you love someone without showing it through sex? Ummm sending them flowers, being by their side when they're sick or in need of emotional support, remembering an anniversary (something most men forget) and being patient & not rushing them to have sex with you just so you can say "they love you".

 

it's the 21st century, no one cares anymore about the concept of "sacred" union of marriage.

by all means don't get married it's like a prison have sex, get wasted and try not to get STDs

 

As Cahos said, I think you're confusing love and lust. Please elaborate.

My point was, premarital sex is not necessarily EVIL, if you know what you're doing and are responsible for it.

 

Why do people have sex? Cause my concept of the word "sex" is the process of pro-creating. I would easily understand the side of those who are in favor of pre-marital sex, if they say their own concept of sex. This is a debate after all.

 

people have sex for pleasure...that's why there's people like Ashley Dupre and Sufiah Yusof...

the main purpose is to pro-create, but us humans found ways around that

 

I would also like to note that there is a difference between Love and Infatuation, try to know the difference guys

 

Words can be incredibly powerful in the lips of a good speaker

 

Tom Leykis.

 

Never heard of him. I'll google him sometime. But now it's late, well relatively.