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Pokemon HG/SS (Original AP Patched) (USA/EUR)

Discussion in 'Technical Help' started by Jhon 591, Jan 17, 2012.

  1. PKMNPlayer2

    PKMNPlayer2 Guest

    Ok, so my first post in this forum.

    I have a certain problem with HGSS.
    See, I'm using clean dumps and I'm not sure if I'm to use the AR code or AP patch.
    My HG has a CRC of FFD28F00 which I believe, means it's a clean rom. SS has a CRC of EBB387E7.
    Now, from what I understand, I can use RGF's Code for both of my roms, correct?
     
  2. Jhon 591

    Jhon 591 Well-Known Member

    I think with AR cheats yes the correct clean ROM has to be used in usrcheat.dat , although on emulation No it dose not need the correct clean ROM, it should in theory work as is :)

    Also welcome to the romulation forms .
     
  3. PKMNPlayer2

    PKMNPlayer2 Guest

    I see. Thanks a lot.
     
  4. devilsin

    devilsin Member

    Hi im new to romulation and have been away from NDS ROM scene for a couple of years. So can you please explain to me is it that all pokemon games have anti piracy? there is no fully patched ROM? i need do manual patch or with codes?
     
  5. necr0

    necr0 Well-Known Member

    Did you attempt to read the title of the thread?
    "Pokemon HG/SS (Original AP Patched) (USA/EUR)"

    Oh, I wonder what "AP Patched" means... could it possibly mean that the game is patched?
    Oh, it does? How did I not notice that!

    [​IMG]



    Because you probably are an idiot, here's the links to..., you guessed it: an AP patched ROM.
    Amazing!

    4787 - Pokémon: HeartGold Version (USA) (PATCHED) (XPA) | MEGA By: Jhon 591
    4788 - Pokémon: SoulSilver Version (USA) (PATCHED) (XPA) | MEGA By: Jhon 591
     
  6. Jhon 591

    Jhon 591 Well-Known Member

    !fp ??? ^^ .
     
  7. Prectorian

    Prectorian . Staff Member

    If you want to overcome such AP, you'd need an up to date flash cartridge or one that runs a up to date secondary firmware such as YSMENU/WOOD so that you can run clean/unpatched rom.
     
  8. necr0

    necr0 Well-Known Member

    I was in a bad mood.
     
  9. Jhon 591

    Jhon 591 Well-Known Member

    Na I was on about the other guy are girl :p xd.
     
  10. PKMNPlayer2

    PKMNPlayer2 Guest

    Might I ask another question?

    Does the AP get written into the save file for HGSS and BW(2)?
     
  11. Prectorian

    Prectorian . Staff Member

    Of cause you may, no one says otherwise.

    No, the AP isn't written into the save file. It's within the rom itself.
    All friend code goes into the save file just so you know.
    Additionally in BW 1 and BW 2, the GAME SYNC ID which is randomly generated is kept in the save file too.
    Lose it and you can't re-generate the same GAME SYNC ID again even when using the same rom.
     
  12. PKMNPlayer2

    PKMNPlayer2 Guest

    Thank you.

    I only asked as I read Jhon's post in a thread where he said that the AP gets written into the save file. Although that was in a different game.

    Can I request something?
    I'd like to know the CRC of the clean roms, please. I hope it's not too much of a trouble.
     
  13. Jhon 591

    Jhon 591 Well-Known Member

    Only the 999 game as far as we know, not all games to and hard to tell what ones this may happen with.

    Its just a question of starting a fresh game as it makes a new save, with AP fix already added from start.

    "Can I request something?
    I'd like to know the CRC of the clean roms, please. I hope it's not too much of a trouble."

    If you download it of the Main NDS section

    https://www.romulation.org/roms/NDS/4839-Pokemon-HeartGold-Version-(v10)-(E).rar/

    and

    https://www.romulation.org/roms/NDS/4788-Pokemon-SoulSilver-Version-(U).rar/

    They are the clean games, Although I did not make note of the CRC32 xd ::)
     
  14. Prectorian

    Prectorian . Staff Member

    Answered by the man himself. :D
     
  15. PKMNPlayer2

    PKMNPlayer2 Guest

    Thank you.
     
  16. Jhon 591

    Jhon 591 Well-Known Member

    Np ;)

    You can use the search bar on here to :) : https://www.romulation.org/roms/NDS/
    Post Merge: [time]1382530186[/time]
    4839 - Pokemon - HeartGold Version (EU) CRC32 [B64A5EFB]
    4840 - Pokemon - SoulSilver Version (EU) CRC32 [968CDE08]

    Clean.
     
  17. pokemaniac15

    pokemaniac15 Member

    Can you please post the patch for both version? I already have the clean roms. Thanks.
     
  18. TBreaker

    TBreaker Well-Known Member

    I would recommend you to use retrogamefan's Overlay Check Patch (AR code) which you can find in this post http://forum.romulation.net/index.php?topic=58215.msg1436896#msg1436896
    It's the best way to fix the AP in these games.
     
  19. ace1231337

    ace1231337 New Member

    I assume that this Overlay Check Patch is needed even if you're using the newest version of the patched games that Jhon just put up in the first post?

    Also, I really don't want to seem like one of those idiots that will spam a thread with already answered questions with things like "ERMAGERHD IT DOESN'T WURK GIEF MEH ROM PLS!!!" so I apologize if this question seems like that (I did read every post in this 9 page thread so I have a decent sense of what's going on). Is no$gba 2.7 better to use than DesmuME I have both versions and either one works for me but I have no idea which of the two will work best since people in this thread seem to be using either/or. I saw retrogamer used DesmuME 0.9.10 and Jhon is advocating for no$gba so I can't really tell which one you guys think is the best. Anyone have any idea?
     
  20. Prectorian

    Prectorian . Staff Member

    I think you can read what's been written on page 1 and figure that out on your own when and if you need to use that cheat or not, as it's clearly stated there by RGF : "use a clean dump!". Thus if you decide to use Jhon591's patched rom, do you think you will still need to use that cheat? And as you already have with you clean rom, would you then have to use Jhon591's?

    As for which emulator is better, each people will say one is better than the other, as each has their own opinion and definition on what is "GOOD". However here's the thing, No$GBA is slower in term of it's updates, thus in many cases couldn't overcome AP in certain rom. While it is as some consider better in frame rate and speed than the DeSmuMe. On the other side, the DeSmuMe has better AP fixing support because of it's continuous updates. Both can use the same AP FIX Action Replay cheats, and both has it's own handicaps. So in the end, it's really up to you to decide which works best to your preference.