Poke'mon Butt/Wipe & Crap/Brown *Rant

Well if the Pokemon games ever get to have a visual novel spin off what you're saying might work.

As an example:

Having arrived late at Professor Oak's lab you find that the only Pokemon he has left is a Pikachu....

[me=Enter scenario options]What will you do now?[/me]

A. Fine! Give me the stupid Pikachu!!
B. Hey old turd, go out there & get me a better starter asshole!
C. Feck this, just give me a digivice instead!

LOL!

But seriously, instead of giving you the "traditional" Fire>Water>Grass starters, why not give you the opportunity to choose from a different set like how about Fighting>Psychic>Dark?

 

"Just play the bastards and forget about whatever shit happens."

 

i choose B. hahah and i also agree with the starter poke'mon idea though i'd love to start out with an eevee like gary does in the yellow version then you'd have atleast 5 different combos that i know of..eevee probably evolves into a legendary pokemon now or will soon enough

 

Nope, I don't put any thought into my rants anymore. Nobody appreciates them and I get banned if I go too far. I think I do quite well within the confines given me.

When I said GB, I meant the original games. If you don't like turn-based systems, why complain about this one?

Man, you obviously don't know of me. I like how you assume I can't play anything other than Pokemon. This amuses me. You've also yet to discern the difference between bitching and PURE UNADULTERATED RAGE. I like reading well constructed rants. Yours is not. I simply don't see why Nintendo should drastically change a formula that has worked for over a decade - a formula that, in essence, is perfect the way it is. I don't give a shit about story, either. Red and Blue had no real story. I loved them. Platinum had a story, but that's okay since I love it too. Also, obligatory >implying the games you play require any thought or skill

UMAD? Oh man, you must be new around here if you're trying to be condescending to me. It only makes you look like an imbecile to the people that matter, just so you know.

1. Plot doesn't really matter, the game's about you and capturing Pokemon. Putting a ton of storyline restrictions on a player in a game that is by nature a pseudo-sandbox makes the game feel more closed-in. I like the looser plotlines of the earlier games (R/S/E just didn't do it for me in that sense despite being good games in their own right) where you're on your adventure and occasionally run into Team Rocket.

2. If you run out of money at any point in the games after about the fifth badge you are doing it very wrong.

3. You don't need to go to Nintendo events to get any of the things like Rotom formes, Oak's Letter etc anymore. There are Wifi events that give you a Mystery Gift. I downloaded Yellow Forest a couple of weeks ago. Didn't need to leave the house. As for the things like the movie release Pokemon, yeah, well, you're sort of screwed. But so is everyone else.

Also, Cahos, in case you didn't know, Pokemon already has a manga. Go read Pokemon Special, you might like it. It's an overall darker world than the games. I really liked it.

Speaking frankly, Eevee is a terrible pokemon to start with. I'm doing a runthrough of Platinum using one. SO SO BAD.


tl;dr if you don't like the main series' game mechanics...

 

I actually found out about the manga from here on RomUlation from die hard fans sometime ago as there is a dedicated thread about is as well.

And about that photo you posted....

LOL!

 

hahahahahaha wow both of your posts are the same nothing new except for your bickering about me


the story might not matter to you or other "hardcore" (haha sounds funny putting that with poke'mon) fans but it matters to people who enjoy the game not just the catch/grind/breed repeat...i admit alot of the multiplayer/co-op games the story means little to me but in a single-player game its 50% of the game in my opinion..some games are like an interactive book to me and i enjoy playing them because of the story.. i loved the gameplay in Disgaea but the story made me wanna puke and i didnt continue the game because of that alone...

of course to make eevee a more effective starter they'd have to hand over the stones earlier in the game, but i dig normal type poke'mon anyway

 

No, they're not. But I take it that you agree with everything else I said, since you haven't argued the points I made.

Oh wait, you are replying to them? For a minute there I pegged you as some ignorant fuckta- oh.

But I digress. If you enjoy the game, you enjoy it. If the catch/grind/breed/etc as well as the story are such big deals, don't play anymore. Pokemon is not by nature a game about story. You want a game about story, go play a proper RPG. Also, I still haven't seen a decent argument as to why the core mechanics of Pokemon's main series should be changed. "Change for the sake of change" is never a good thing.

And Eevee is still terrible. It's stuck with Tackle for an ungodly length of time. My starting one has Curse and Wish and it's still horrendously bad. Eevee and its evolutions only really get good setups from TMs and/or high levels.

 

maybe in the newer versions but you get the TM water gun very early in red/blue/yellow and im almost 100% sure eevee can learn it even though its not a "vaporeon" yet.. heck, rattata can learn it haha

and "change for the sake of change" isnt bad considering you'd be playing pokemon black & white in "black & white" with the same 150 pokemon from the beginning so dont preach that hypocritical bullshit to me haha hell poke'mon black and white would exist if "change for the sake of change" wasnt necessary

oh and ive argued my reasons why it should change from the beginning post on and it wasn't good enough for you so just deal with it man.. this thread isnt "how i should convince Suiseiseki that change is good" its a rant its in the topic

i didnt say that the coding to the game was bugged or anything i just said it needed to change thats why i dont have a better reason than "change for the sake of change"

 

Incorrect actually.

The first Pokémon media, Pokémon Red and Blue, were released initially on February 27, 1996, whereas the Digimon virtual pet was released on June 26, 1997.

 

The game came first

 

I don't

I don't understand anything you said in that post.

 

Well, Pokemon has been getting better, actually. In the new Black/White games, in a battle the Pokemon constantly move and the attacks/pokemon actually go to hit each other as they now do in PBR. The camera is now more 3D and much better than Diamond/Pearl's ever was.

I've heard they're even putting more new ideas into the battle system, so you should at least check out a gameplay video when the game comes out in Japan. They might have made the game...... Ultimate.

Don't go on criticizing when there's something new being developed. Wait until you know exactly what they're doing with it.

 

Ok.

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

You're not the only one. He wants change but, by his own admittance, doesn't have any good reason for change.

Also upgrading the graphics does not count as change for the sake of change.

 

I tried reading it

Apparently franchise expansion is the same as change for the sake of change in regards to gameplay mechanics

And change for the sake of change is seemingly an excellent idea despite swathes of financial precedent stating otherwise

There is no sense in his posts

 

As Suiseiseki (Your name is hard to spell) said, Pokemon games need not have a story. The anime barely has story now... It's like episodes of Simpsons until they reach another Gym.

 

Reading "change for the sake of change" over and over is driving me nuts.

Making lots of money despite making no effort to improve the franchise benefits the developer and publisher, not the gamers who buy it. If GAMEFREAK hadn't included the breeding, ability to hold items, shiny Poke'mon and all the other stuff that they added to the franchise in Gold and Silver; people would still have bought it. If it had just been the same as Red and Blue but with a different map and a few different Poke'mon; people would still have bought it, it would still have sold millions. It's reasonably for you to dispute the suggested changes to the future instalments, but saying that something that sells well must be good would make The Phantom Menace one of the greatest films of all time. It's possible to have too much of a good thing; if every new Poke'mon game was built to fit into the exact same template, I feel that it wouldn't be long until everyone except the die-hards abandoned it completely for the next fad.

I haven't seen the video/pictures of those things, could you link please?

I like rants, everyone likes a little drama now and then.

The turn-based fighting system in FF games have often been changed dramatically between games, this may make them seem fresher to some... I personally don't mind the system as it is now, but as I said earlier; making all battles double battles would be an improvement IMO.

To be honest, I don't see much of a difference in complexity between the stories of any generation. In Red and Blue for example; I thought that the side story about Team Rocket murdering cubone's mother and then her spirit haunting that tower was pretty deep for a kid's game. On an unrelated note, when I first played through Red, when I was a kid, I didn't know you needed the scope thing to get past the ghost in the tower; I used a Poke'doll instead. I didn't realise until my fourth play through what the "proper" way to proceed was.

Lol, egotastic. Wow, I hope that the shame caused by disapproval from "the people that matter" doesn't lead to anyone in this thread crying themselves to sleep at night

 

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There isn't a good story in pokemon games, and there shouldnt be.

 

Why would adding a decent story restrict anything?, the game is still linear even without it because of its layout.

Another thing I wouldn't mind, is a difficulty setting at the beginning. Which would effect pokemon levels, money gained, battle mode ('set' mode would be forced in the hardest) etc.
These ideas can only be seen as beneficial, surely. They don't screw with what's already there.

 

If thats the case, WiFi battles would be quite unbalanced. And the possibility of breaking the games from the start is really high.
And I think people play the game not for the story, but rather just for the fun of raising pokemon, training them and such. A story is quite meaningless as it may give us that "Finish one story in a town, move on to the next" and not have any free-exploration until you beat the game.