Nintendo's on a roll.

well im sorry if you didnt like my typing this isn't a typing class nor ur a teacher no offence. Im sure if the game is good enough i would purchase it, as i did with all my resident evils, tekken games, and metal gear exct. okay I see you back up the whole "stealing thing" but you should practice it and stop preaching it. I know how it was to be poor and having nothing to do but watch the sun go up, down and kick rocks. and i know what ur thinking if they have a computer they cant be that poor but sum people go to the local book store and load games i mean come on ease up on piracy kids you dont know what they go threw I do so I can have a say. You say you buy them okay then go buy them dont download them and play them if u trust the industry so much to back them up on piracy.Then go the length they want you to go and RENT them then buy them. it isn't all that easy now huh? instead of "stealing" them and trying them out............enough said

 

If you want to come across with intelligence you might want to type in proper English, in fact, typing properly's one of the rules here.

I would reply to the rest of your post but I have to go. Later.

 

Piracy isn't stealing. Piracy makes a copy of a game, then redistributes the copy, and the original game, which was purchased, is still there.
Stealing, is taking a physical copy of a product.

Piracy is never stealing.

 

100% agreed!

 

You're still taking the game from the developers without actually giving money for them. Essentially, you take a 30$ - 70$ game, that the developer/publisher would've gotten if you hadn't took it. Combine that with the distributors of the pirated copies off of games, it adds up. How would you feel if you were a developer and people were taking your product for free? I'd be pretty peeved. It's not the same as theft but it's close enough, you're taking away from what the developer has made, you took his time and work, for nothing. Developers slave over these games with a payrate that doesn't match, they do everything to keep up with the deadline, and people pirate it, it's nearly insulting to them.

Yes I pirate, I usually give in and get the game anyway. The only pirated PC game I have on my PC is Bioshock 2 and I just traveled 1 hour away to go buy it on the 360 and see the doctor about my fractured arm, then took another hour to go back home. I also pirated Borderlands, and Dragon age, but then I bought them for my PS3. The games I've bought for my PC are Battlefield 2, Left4Dead and Team Fortress 2, only because I knew that they were good games (REVIEWS) and because I needed to buy them to play them to my liking. I'm aware that it costs a lot of money, but video games are a luxury, you don't need them, you don't need to buy them, if I see a game I want and can't buy for whatever reason, I scoff and forget about it. It's no big deal, I have better things to do than play video games half the time anyways (like spend time with my family).

You're so all over the place with your whole paragraph I don't even know where to begin. If you're a kid and you're poor (so is your family, I guess), shouldn't your priorities be not to buy video games? But instead do something more productive?

I have no clue what you're trying to say, if you're more elaborate on your points I could comment, but I can't because you simply make no sense.

I can see why people pirate, the reason why I do it is because the town an hour away sells them for 10 dollars higher than the original price and the nearest city to me is five hours away. I can see why people pirate, it's just not justified in anyway. You're taking a product away that the devs took time, money and resources to make. I'm not talking down on anyone, I'm just saying it like it is. Justify it anyway you want, it's still bad.

 

okay i speak for the kids who are poor. and come on you're saying that a kid should be doing something more productive? its a freaking kid for god sake i wrather have a kid piracy a game then going to a store and actually "physically" taking it and actually STEALING IT, stealing it would and could lead to other things. so i think piracy isn't all as bad as what people make is seem to be. and I'm going to end this with me saying i don't dislike anyone for there opinions cause that's what make them differant but all i ask is be rational to those who have it hard and have nothing but their knowledge and a video game console

 

Anyone who honestly believes piracy is harmless is kidding themselves. The semantics of whether or not it's technically theft or what have you are totally irrelevant.

Anyway, I daresay Nintendo has bigger fish to fry than idiot bogan vendors. I know many people with at least one DS and a very tiny percentage of them know what a flashcart is, much less own one. If you wanna fight piracy, Australia is the wrong battleground.

Do you know what "productive" means? It means doing homework, chores and helping little old ladies cross the street, rather than wasting time playing video games, be they pirated, stolen or bought.

 

I understand your point, I am just saying, piracy is piracy and stealing is stealing. I often 'try' before I 'buy'. I usually end up buying the game anyway, as I enjoyed it. As a whole, I'm fairly certain the number of people who pirate games, and solely pirate them, never buying a game is minimal in comparison to the people who do try before they buy.

I'm not trying to justify it, as it is wrong, just trying to clarify that piracy is just piracy and theft is theft.

 

Ah, alright then. Yeah, there's a fine line in between piracy and theft, I kinda got mixed up, sorry.

 

So they are Targeting the R4's. Can't you see the plain here? Pirates knew Nintendo would go after piracy so they threw together the R4DS, gave it popularity, and then killed it as a diversion for Nintendo so they would not target Acekard, EZ Flash, Etc.

 

I think that that's a little far-fetched.

 

I despise you. I wish I could reach through the internet and choke you.

You're acting like there's only the choice of stealing physically or priating a game. You could always just buy the game. Or even better, if you don't have the money, you could always forget about it and not buy it. Letting people (even poor people) rip developers off isn't being rational, it's fucking bullshit that people seem to have a need to justify. You're poor, boo-fucking-hoo. Save or cut down on something else like you would if you didn't have enough for food.

I see people making excuse after excuse in order to make themselves feel better. Piracy is essentially stealing. The end result is exactly the same as if I walked into a store and slipped some game into my bag while nobody was looking - I get a game for free and somebody loses money. I pirate because I really don't give a fuck. I'm under no illusions that what I'm doing is wrong and hurts developers, because it is and it does and I'm aware of it. What I can't stand are people who make excuses and feebly try to protest that they're not doing anything wrong. You're stealing. Don't try and gift-wrap it to make yourself feel better.

P.S. Natalie is awesome.
P.P.S. Oh god I sound like Lucavi

 

When I was a poor kid growing up, you know what I did rather than play video games? I played outside, beating my friends with "swords" (really just sticks we found outside). And we walked down the road to the lake and caught crayfish to sell to the bait shops to get money to buy candy from the same stores. And hit frogs in the ponds with sticks because they exploded if you hit them correctly.

 

Poor kids don't need video games to have fun. I was pretty poor when I was a kid, too. Heck, our house was made of scrap metal... Or maybe that was just the roof. I watched anime and good cartoons and played with the dogs and cats for fun. Ooh, and the caterpillars were cool, too! We had clouds back then, big poofy clouds. I read a lot, too, and to the misfortune of all those around me, the three-to-four-year-old that was me told them all about all sorts of interesting, juicy tidbits.

"Did you know ebola makes you bleed from loads of places, like--"
"People get AIDS by having sex."
"Did you know the mating habits of [insert animal here] are [insert mating habits here]?"
"Did you know the Egyptians took the brains out of mummies with a hook up the nose?"
"Did you know the human mouth is even dirtier than a dog's mouth?"

There was a point where my parents actually had to have a talk with me, about talking too much... But whatever.

 

okay well i see that you really can care less but i can understand where you come from with the whole sugar coating the subject LOL. i have donated a couple dsi to kids in what we call the ghetto in chicago and i not only gave them a dsi but i also gave them cards that had all the games on it. for the fact that they cant BUY games so i guess im a asshole for doing a good thing when i was doing something bad just to keep kids off the streets and gangs cuase i know how it is growing up in the city and how bad it is and to the guy saying do something productive is pretty stupid. tell that to a black kid that has nothing around him and nothing "productive"in anyway i guess you can say that if you came from a nice lil white town but where im from theres no such thing as helping old people cross the street. where i dontated the dsi's they have a motto written on the suburb saying join or die and im not going to name the gang but its really bad so i guess you can get the point of what my purpose was all i want to do is help and have people underdtand and b rational to those who need it. but back to the subject pirate is kinda bad not not nearly as close as to physically stealing something from a store and may i add its pointless to argue this threw a forum place where we get games.

 

I... struggled to read your post, jo3.

It was very kind of you to donate games to those who can't afford it, and I wouldn't be surprised if Soul Bubbles really did keep those kids off the streets. And yes, piracy isn't nearly as bad as mugging an old lady, but that doesn't change the fact that piracy is still bad.

If you really want to get kids off the streets that badly, a few video games aren't going to make a difference long-term. You've got to get involved with these kids, their lives, act as a resonsible mentor, someone they can look up to that doesn't go out and commit drive-by shootings. And before you go on about me perhaps coming from a little white town... (aren't those only up in Northern Cali' anyway?) you should really think twice.

 

I'd contest that this is the perfect place to discuss the morality of piracy. That's all I'm saying, since MessoMesso basically covered everything I want to say (and in a legible, intelligible manner! I like you already).

 

did you paid the full price for the apps on your pc or did you pirate them?

it goes to the point that piracy is a good thing. it makes people make products that are according to the interest of the people. of course if it doesn't then piracy becomes the target.

 

Wtf?

Piracy is only good for pirate seller's to make a quick buck/buyers to save money/downloads to only pay net cost.


When I pirate, it's because (as of now) it's just these few things.

-Test out games before I pay full price

(I saw some fearri game on ps3 I wanted, but since no demos, I pirated the ps2 version...saved me some cash XD)

-Old/out of region games/modded games

(Jump ultimate stars with english patch anyone )

-EA/thq based trash

(Preety much the wwe games and some fifa games for my little brother)



I hardly downloads roms these days, those I do are because of the above stated reasons, now I'll go back and download sega rally 2005 for ps2...since it's old and impossible to find...even on ebay...

 

I have no issues with piracy (obviously), for which ever reasons people want to do it. But I do have problems with people trying to justify why they do it and act like they aren't breaking the law, or that it isn't stealing. The idea that some people hold that they are somehow entitled to things for free because they can't afford it, or don't want to spend the money on it, is offensive.

People tend to forget that game companies are for-profit organizations. Because data is so easy to download and since there is no physical item changing hands they don't feel as if anything wrong happened. But it's really no different than walking in somewhere and taking a game of a shelf and walking out. That 50USD they charge for the latest released game isn't because that DVD it's printed on cost 45 dollars. Hell, that probably cost them 50 cents. The value is the data, and time spent creating it, not the item.

If you wish to be a pirate, feel free to be so. But don't lie to yourself to make yourself feel better about it. Understand what you are doing.