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Need Help With Seeing if Computer Parts are Compatible

Discussion in 'Non-Emulation Help' started by nate98360, Mar 2, 2014.

  1. nate98360

    nate98360 Member

    Hello Fellow RomU Members,
    I am not the most experienced among you in building computers, and this is my possible first (if I decide to buy the parts). As the title of the post says, can you guys tell me if these parts are compatible, and also if they are good? And also, I tried to stick to my budget of $700, so can u guys help me stick to that by giving be advice on what to ditch and keep? Thanks, and the links are below.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147158
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178381
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130637
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127783
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817580003
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104262
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284
     
  2. necr0

    necr0 Well-Known Member

    Loonylion!

    A quick look, and all seems good.
    You can probably go down to a 600/650W PSU to save a few bucks, and just a note, the 750Ti isn't in stock.

    Kingston isn't the worlds greatest RAM brand, it's probably better to spend a few bucks more and go for the G.SKILL.
    You're case is a bit expensive, could go for a cheaper one, like a silent H440, Source 210 or a Phantom 410 (all NZXT).

    All in all though, a good system.
     
  3. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    dont get that PSU, its a no-name brand. Go for a well known brand like antec, thermaltake, corsair, silverstone, coolermaster or seasonic. they're a lot less likely to fail and destroy your components. I would suggest sticking to 700-750W

    Don't bother with hybrid drives, just get a normal HDD. Bear in mind that you cant install windows on a drive larger than 2TB without partitioning it.

    I agree with The Necr0mancer, kingston aren't that great. Look for mushkin, geil, gskill, corsair, hynix or nanya. If you go for 'normal' ram rather than performance ram, it will be cheaper and wont make a huge difference to performance.

    You also lack a cpu cooler. Yes one comes with the cpu, but its only barely adequate.
     
  4. nate98360

    nate98360 Member

    Since the 750 ti isn't in stock, whats a good alternative that can run something like Assassin's Creed 4 at high-ultra at somewhere between 45-60 fps min?
    also, what brand of graphics card and cpu cooler should i get? thanks.
     
  5. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    I have a gtx 760 and it can run anything I throw at it. MSI and gigabyte are good geforce brands.

    theres a lot of good coolers around, just make sure its a socket am3+ compatible one (most are). Coolermaster 212 evo seems quite highly rated
     
  6. nate98360

    nate98360 Member

    Hey Guys,
    Thanks for the tips. I have now made a list of parts for two potential computers (one is intel-based and the other amd-based):
    Amd Based:
    1. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147158
    2. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339
    3. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130637
    4. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231455
    5. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16800888056
    6. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284
    7. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186082
    8. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125480
    9. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171068

    Intel Based:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131837
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231455
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125480
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103057
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16800888056
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156280
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171068

    Ok I'm gonna be honest, following the advice of you guys, my amd pc is gonna cost $845 and my intel pc is gonna cost $910. Both are a LOT over my budget of $700, and I can't figure out where to cut corners. On top of that, I'm not sure if my parts are decent, or if the parts are completely compatible Can I have the input of you guys again? Thanks.
     
  7. necr0

    necr0 Well-Known Member

    Intel system:

    - Lights: if you really want to save, scratch them out
    - Case: once again, gone for an expensive one. There are many cheaper alternatives, some of which are full towers.

    You could go for a MiniITX board, which could allow you to get a much cheaper (and smaller case).

    AMD system:

    - Lights: if you really want to save, scratch them out
    - Case: once again, gone for an expensive one. There are many cheaper alternatives, some of which are full towers.
    - CPU: could go for an FX-8320. Doesn't really matter if you're intending to game.

    You could go for a MiniITX board, which could allow you to get a much cheaper (and smaller case).



    Also note, the AMD cards are a bit more expensive than usual at the moment, thanks to the Dogecoin mining boom.
    So a GTX card (can still get the 750 Ti, just might want to go Amazon or a store alternative) might be a better way to go.

    (a lot of similarities with things to fix/cut corners, it's not just copy and paste)
     
  8. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    mini itx is a bad idea, it has virtually no upgrade potential. Stick with ATX, or micro atx if you must, which will fit in either a full tower or most mid tower cases (microatx will fit in all mid towers).

    Intel is not worth the expense unless you get an i7 3770k or higher, which is probably beyond your budget.

    the AMD cooler you've chosen is unlikely to be much better than the stock cooler, and the PSU is cutting it a bit fine, I'd be going for a 700W in your situation. A mid tower case would cost significantly less than a full tower.

    intel wise, the same applies with the PSU and case, although you have a cheaper case, and the cooler is a good choice. You do need to be a bit careful with the ram, as raised heatspreaders like the ripjaws have can have clearance issues with aircoolers that overhang the ram slots (this is a very common problem, I fail to understand why the manufacturers of such products haven't found a solution to it)
     
  9. joshua.rozario

    joshua.rozario Well-Known Member

    actually the Intel i5 and i7 ivy bridges perform similarly in terms of single threaded applications and most current games are not multi-threaded you wouldn't notice a big difference in terms of gaming but if you were to let's say use a more cpu intensitive application such as video editing you would notice a leap of 25- 30%

    http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Core_i5_3570K_and_i7_3770K_Comparison/8.html

    edited for spacing and grammar
     
  10. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    AMD give more bang for buck below the i7 3770k.
     
  11. necr0

    necr0 Well-Known Member

    After my tests even?
     
  12. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    the 8350 is roughly equivalent to a 3770k when all cores are in use. When only one or two cores are in use, which is the case in over 90% of applications, the 3770k beats it flat.

    the new vishera core FX chips (9xxx) are quite a significant improvement over the 8350, but they're quite pricey, and are very power hungry. And they're still beaten by the 3770k, just by much less of a margin. The fundamental problem is AMD needs 2 cores to do the same amount of work that the 3770k can do with one.