law bans the resale of game (rumor

But you will never find an immaculate ferrari for sale in a local dealer either.

 

You're singling out Ferraris, I bet you can find immaculate used cars at a local dealer and the price will be effected.

 

Yes mine.
It really has had one lady owner since new, the interior looks as if its never been sat on, its got hardly any miles, in fact none in the last 4 years because she went blind.
Thing is, its a rover. £700.

 

it is not about buying used. i'm unsure as to where you got this according to the article. it's about being able to sell a software you have to someone else, transfer of rights. it is not about digital downloads, either, though it can but it has to do with digital content. digital content is not digital download. i don't know where you got this idea according to the article. video games and software are digital content. dvd and bluray movies are digital content.

let me ask one question, a very simple question and it will make you look very bad and it was not my doing because it's according to your statement and that was your doing. do you support onlive?! if you say yes, then you're an idiot [you're in support of drm, who wants that] and if you say no, then you're a hypocrit [you contradict your idea].

why would you want to buy a product [a good, etc...] where you're not the owner of it. what would be the point of buying it?! the company dictates the ownership. is that a good thing, yeah according to some like what Cahos Rahne Veloza was saying. if that happens, why would you even consider buying when you don't own?! why should you even put interest in the product or good knowing that the company doesn't care about you as a customer. why should the company dictate to you, as a customer, when you, as the customer, are the one's paying money for the good/product. that's a load of crap and i can't believe people like Cahos Rahne Veloza are in support of this idea.

 

Rather than go through the trouble of courts, and trying to ban resales, companies will just move to the licensing/activation codes they've been using for a while now. Like with an MMO. Game ships with a code. Creating an account (or registering the product) uses the code. You can resell the software all you want, but the next user won't be able to use it without a new code.

Yes, this can be hacked/bypassed, but the majority of users don't do this.

This already exists, and it is the easiest route for a company to take to ensure that new users are purchasing something from that rather than solely through second hand. I'm sure this is the route. Like it or not.

 

Bullshit!

If it were to be outlawed, then how would I get my SNES and Sega Genesis carts?
I would HAVE to pirate them instead of buying them...I do enjoy the classics more.
I actually like owning the older games as opposed to downloading them.

 

I believe its more aimed at current gen and future games more so than "retro" stuff as of now don't think there is much that can be done about old stuff now and I am sure someone is going to try to prove me wrong on that one too. :-\

 

Do you seriously buy this? Because if you do, go check your email immediately, because I think you've won the Nigerian lottery.

No, but really, you and your friend are violently stupid. Thats about as stupid as saying McDonalds has just passed a bill in the Senate that outlaws all other forms of food.

ALSO, please stop typing things until you have kindergarten level writing skills at LEAST. My eyes are hemorrhaging.

 

Man, ultra, you've really outdone yourself this time. Let's looks at things step by step, shall we?

Um, yeah, it is about buying used. To sell something means someone buys something. The issue with this case is that Autodesk claims that the software was licensed rather than sold, which means that the law of first sale does not apply and therefore software cannot be resold after the initial purchase. In other words, the "rights" to use the software (ie the license) cannot be transferred.

Let me ask one question, a very simple question and it will make you look very bad and it was not my doing because it's according to your statement and that was your doing. How did you manage to pull this whopper out of your ass? It has absolutely no relevance to anything Cahos (or indeed anyone else in this thread) has said. Perhaps I'm simply unable to follow your grand logic; enlighten me, if you will.

This is exactly what happens when intellectual property is sold. And guess what? Intellectual property is sold all the time. Books, music, movies, video games... You don't really own any of it other than the physical product, if applicable.

Again, I have no idea how you came up with this. Surely even you are capable of looking at the context of his post and realising that it was in response to one of your claims (the logic of which I, again, cannot begin to fathom).

More unrighteous indignation. Everyone knows that a corporation's bottom line is profit. Customers, and caring for them, are only a means to reach that end. Customers buy in because they want to play the game, if it wasn't immediately obvious. Hell, why do you think Ubisoft still exists?

You're a load of crap and I can't believe people like you are in support of your ideas.

 

Theres no way kids can be responsible for a licenced agreement, I can't see that ever applying to games.
What are they going to do if my 7 year old sell's her nintendogs? Fine her and give her community service?
Autocad is used by businesses its different.

TirithRR's idea of activation codes sounds likely for online games but I can't see it happening for the average game.
I mean, what if your console breaks? what if you want to take it to a friends to play?

 

PC games have had this for AGES, I'm not too sure why people are complaining about it now.

The best way to ensure these codes aren't abused or abusing the player, the best bet is to have it both to the account signed in, and the console it's being used on. Xbox Live uses this and it's probably the best option. As it enables any user on the console to use the multiplayer, and you're able to use it other consoles too.

Bonus would be tying it to the account online AND offline.

I know EA's codes miss the tying to the console, which is total bull shit.

Having all games have this code feature, will of course, obliterate used game sales or cripple it hardcore.

I did make a reply to ultra, but then I forgot about it and exited out of the window, I'm too lazy atm.

 

ROFL!!! you really have a lot to learn!!

 

Obviously no company is stupid enough to target the consumers like that, but legislation that prevents retailers from participating is an enforceable way of achieving their goals.

Not as much as you, my good man.

 

@Ultra: As tehuber1337 said, I wasn't even talking about online gaming

I simply commented on this hypocritical post of yours:

Which has nothing to do your rant on onlive

And yes, someone who brazenly supports the end of videogaming as we know it is indeed a kill joy party pooper.

 

There will be a big rise in retro roms if this happens....thank god ive almost built my collection of every game on every system.

 

I think its EA that have started stating in their EULAs that you have bought a license to use their software, not that you bought a copy of it.

 

Something that just dawned on me or I just didn't notice, but all this BS is over games yet nothing mentioned about the consoles seems a bit odd to me.

 

can't piracy a console.

Unless you are a genius and you buy all parts and make one yourself.
No matter where you buy the console... the only difference is if the taxes are applied or not.

Games you can save backup copies, share on the web, download.... or you can just resell. Basically, games makes more money and are easier to "bypass" the "system. "


Its exactly what tehuber said about intellectual property. When you buy a book, you own the papers not the information inside. And i believe that auto desk and the game companys think in the same line... since people buy the Digital Midia and not the game itself.

If you agree or disagree with that line of thinking. its up to the court to decide.


@TirithRR
p2p games are rare nowadays. Free online games with cash shop are already confirmed to make a lot more profit with a lot less headaches........ for the publisher, of course.

 

I was meaning the selling of used consoles, they want to bitch about wanting in on used game sales why not the consoles too?