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Is it possible to reach or surpass the speed of light?

Discussion in 'Debates' started by Gietz, Feb 7, 2009.

  1. kanakacheek

    kanakacheek Well-Known Member

    so what happened to the light in the black hole?
     
  2. anandjones

    anandjones Well-Known Member

    It would just be distorted or sucked in (gone). Or, it has been explained that it can curve while it is entering one. But it still couldn't escape the horizon obviously.

    But yeah, speed of Light is all we can prove to be the fastest.
     
  3. calvin_0

    calvin_0 Well-Known Member

    i really wonder what happen in a black hole.......
     
  4. kamage

    kamage Well-Known Member

    Well, imagine a speck of dust... with a density of infinity.

    In my own opinion, I think the things sucked into a black hole are added to that speck of dust. But people say otherwise (commonly mistaken for a wormhole, but they're different)
     
  5. cjdogger

    cjdogger Guest

    Apparently Nothingness exists in a non existant way, so basically what get's sucked in may be turned into nothingness...
     
  6. apophos755

    apophos755 Well-Known Member

    Are you trying to divide by zero again cj?
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  7. casper1910

    casper1910 Well-Known Member

    I agree with Seph I think our bodies could handle going at the speed of light even if we could. I mean the g-force would be so great it would most probably kill you.

    I read somewhere that scientists in some country (can't remember which one) are making a massive particle accelerator that in circumfrence, is absolutly huge. And it tunnels for 20km. It's due for testing in 2012, and scientists have no idea what could happen when they activate it only theories. One of the theories is that earth could possibly be shrunk to the size of a basket ball.

    Bit off topic but somehow this thread reminded me of it.
     
  8. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    you mean the large hadron collider? It's already active, they just don't use it in the winter (consumes too much electricity) and it needs repairs anyhow.
     
  9. cjdogger

    cjdogger Guest

    Lolwut? XD
    Division by zero = zero doesn't it but yes figuring out what nothingness is... it's impossible...
     
  10. Deathbreak911

    Deathbreak911 Well-Known Member

    One of two things. Some assume that because of the gravity, the closer you get to the center of a black hole, the slower you'd go, so light never reaches the end of a black hole. A second theory is that it links to a worm hole somewhere and there's a "white hole" some where that shoots out all that was sucked into the black hole.
     
  11. cjdogger

    cjdogger Guest

    I like the second theory...
     
  12. sasquatch

    sasquatch Well-Known Member

    Ok I believe the speed of light will be capable at some stage, to make a joke of it there was ludicrous speed in space balls the movie though where they managed to go the speed of plaid.
    But again on a serious note,even the most scientifically gifted of us don't have a clue about how to manage the feat, we can't do it with combustible materials because the amount needed would be too huge to be an effective way to power anything, you would need something as large as the sun to power something as small as a pea, until we come up with a way to harness the light as a source of propulsion we just won't be able to reach those speeds.
    And on another note, isn't the theory that if we could travel at the speed of light, we would then be crashing through the space time continuum, and then in fact be time travelling and not be going at the speed of light.
     
  13. Fearon

    Fearon Well-Known Member

    That's why time moves faster at the speed of light (Now I'm sure i've heard that somewhere before) But I believe that someday given the time of existance, we will achieve it. whether it's by compressing space to push us through or by pure purpolsion. I believe that we could achieve the level of technology displayed in Star Ocean, or at least Halo.
     
  14. DMpunk

    DMpunk Member

    if you went faster than the speed of light then according to einstein you would go backwards in time. i think that if you surpassed the speed of light, because of your mass and speed you would create a gravitational field and possibly destroy everything. this is because all objects have gravity(proven fact). take the earth for example. it doesn't move at the speed of light but it does generate gravity because it is spinning.
     
  15. Fearon

    Fearon Well-Known Member

    Okay, well, then let's just combine our two theories. Say a carrier cruiser tries the first light speed excursion (let's name it the titanic for irony) and it makes what you said, now I don't see how a gravitional field would destroy everything but whatever, and then it or everything is destroyed. Then well, we would either not be able to produce any more anything cause we'd all be dead, OR, we would know not to fly at light speed and try and figure somethin' else, or just fly in conventional space
     
  16. Krusha

    Krusha Well-Known Member

    *ahem* really the debate should be can a man-made object reach the speed of light, light reaches the sol all the time.
    ok seriously

    0.o movement has NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER to the gravity an object has, gravity is simply determined by the amount of mass an object has (jeez year 9 science here)
     
  17. bhatooth

    bhatooth Well-Known Member

    wouldnt it be dark if we travel faster than the speed of light because i heard somewhere that if you travel faster than sound it will be quiet
     
  18. Fearon

    Fearon Well-Known Member

    Yeah, that makes sense unless the sound was right in your ear, and yes if we did travel faster than light than it would be dark, unless light came at us from the direction we were going
     
  19. gaynorvader

    gaynorvader Well-Known Member

    If you're referring to e = mc^2, then you are wrong. For those of you who don't know, this equation basically means, the closer to light speed you get, the bigger the energy needed becomes, and the energy needed jumps up very quickly. Of course, this is assuming all light in the universe travels at the same speed, and that it has mass.
     
  20. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    Also its not the spinning of the earth that creates gravity, it's the mass of the earth.