Is being religious means that a particular person is morally healthy?

i agree with you. i think that it's the same as people who do good because they don't want to go to hell and think that this will take them to heaven. but for someone to be truly good, it's not just doing good because you want the good back, it's doing it because it makes you happy and this is probably what you gain from it already.

 

here we go morality is one of my favorite subjects at the moment.

religion has nothing what so ever to do with morality, never has and never will.
morality is something that any social group has, it's needed for group dynamics and can be seen all across the animal kingdom.

it's nothing more then self preservation and it develops naturally, you don't kill because you don't want to be killed, you don't steal because you don't want things stolen ect.

if anything religion allows you to break your natural sense of morality, allowing you to demonize people that don't have the same belief as you or do something your god wills.

we have a natural sense of morality, it is in our genes as an animal that lives in a social structure although behavioral development as a child has a massive impact on this but then again this is where the line gets blurry between what we count as morality and socially acceptable behavior and most of what we call morals is actually social behaviors instead but again blurry because they are and are not the same thing.

also morals are not set in stone and are dependent entirely on situation here are some role play activities you can try.

• your family is staving and your child is about to die unless he eats something soon, there is a loaf of bread that you can easily steal. you know stealing is wrong but what do you do?
  
• a man is about to harm your family, you have a weapon in your hands, you know killing is wrong but unless you do your family might be murdered, what do you do?

if you answer those question the same way nearly every person will, you will see how religion allows you to break morality/acceptable behaviors as if your told you will live forever in happiness and wealth if you carry out gods will weather it is killing your infidel enemy or persecuting anyone without your belief.

 

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I'll just leave this here.

 

Religion.. Or shall we say a structural belief system, in itself doesn't make up a persons morals, or life choices; But, the way in which the systems are put in place, allows them to be used as tools to change peoples own morals and life choices.

[*]You get raped. Now, as a catholic, if you are pregnant, you can't go through with abortion. Morally, I would say, it is in the best interests of the woman who was raped, and the future baby, that the baby wasn't born.

Now, there are obviously people throughout the world, from every religion in the spectrum, that will be a nice person; No matter if they believe in Xenu, or a deity or any other form of religion, they will still have decent morals, and will still pick the morally acceptable cause of action to a specific situation -- even if the situation calls for the death of another human being.

Though stern hardened religion folk, for the most part, are bigots, and because of certain things within their life -- be it brought up or even changing their opinions after an incident -- their morals differ due to the fact that religion is present within their life.

The addition to this, are the social structures in which structural belief systems are based upon, that cause mass hate and bigotry and give a bad name to generally nice people who believe that this isn't just all that there is. Atheism is now moving ever closer to the bigotry that is the structured systems of belief, and just because they think it's stupid, they are falling into the same trap of bigotry of hate.

The morality of man (or humankind) isn't a line, just like normality. Where someone may cross the line (for instance, murder), you then have to question why they committed that murder.

I suppose - TL;DR: Morals do not stem from structural belief systems, but those systems can and are used to manipulate people's morals.

 

With all that said. What do you think of euthanasia??

The dying patient should be able to choose if they want to live or die, right?? yes, i think that's right!!!

but what happens when:

- The family of the patient gets to decide because the patient is unable to respond, do they base their decisions on what they think the patient would want, on the amount of money they are willing to pay to keep the patient alive or on what the family want - like maybe they hate the patient, or really really can't wait for the inheritance??

- Religiously, it is not right to decide upon the death of others or your own as this is opposing "god" and the "forces of nature" but is it also right to make the patient suffer?? (well, that is only if we know the patient really is suffering)

- This could then be related to how animals are put down. Horses with broken legs are put down as this is money consuming in keeping them alive, causes the horse suffering as they would prefer to be able to move freely (horses can't talk, they're probably begging for their lives but we just ignore them) and maybe just because they are animals, and yes killing an animal is not wrong but killing a human is wrong.

 

euthanasia is really a different subjest and doesn't play part in morals.

in my opinion the moral thing to do is the person not to suffer but in the way of that is personal emotions for most people. i'd rather see my family dead then suffering.
and i'd want for someone to do the same for me. i'd want to be dead over being a vegetable or in constant pain.
same with animals if my cats got sick and needed operations i would put them down, it's not a money thing it for the fact that they will go through so much pain and they don't understand it and what is all that pain for? for my emotional benefit? that's just sick really.

actually recently there was an article about a vet that quit his job because he loves animals and was fed up of a the suffering animals went through just because of the owners emotional attachment. he went on to suggest if anyone actually cares about there animals that it is kinder to put it down then make it suffer.

 

Morales are to do with what is right and wrong in a given situation..

I don't think that because someone is religious means they are morally healthy, I mean there are some people who believe in God or an Omnipotent power but may be lacking in morales, for instance they may be crazed and kill people. Then we have to approach the point that different religions teach people different things, which may influence these morales.

So just because someone has religious beliefs does not mean that they are morally healthy. They may think they are, but they might not be. There are too many other factors to point the blame specifically on Religion.

 

Morals are relative. Some regard things like murder and theft as bad, others do not.
Regardless of your outlook on religion, unless you like to be contradictory as hell, and stand against everything you stand for at any given time, you're ALWAYS morally healthy.
You just do what you think is right all the time, you cannot lose. If you're doing "wrong", adjust your moral compass.

 

I'd take the damn bread and kill the douche-bag!
I'm pretty sure I won't have too many sleepless nights from eating someone's bread...
And as far as the guy, survival of the fittest. Even if you have to throw a weapon into the equation. He shouldn't be threatening a guy's family in front of him. He's asking for it. And it sounds like he'd have a weapon too... should've been more capable with it. F.