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Illegal Downloading

Discussion in 'Rants' started by CloudBoy101, Feb 6, 2008.

  1. gaynorvader

    gaynorvader Well-Known Member

    I also download games that aren't even possible to get anymore (FF7 PC, FF7 8 PC) at least from a retailer. Who wants to pay someone on ebay for a copy of FF7 for well over $200 when you can get it for free? It's not like square makes money off of used copies owned and sold by the private. Much like GM doesn't make money off of used GM cars sold by non GM dealerships.

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    Actually, reselling games is just as illegal as downloading, it's in the terms and conditions. DOES NOONE READ THOSE THINGS?! I'm pretty sure that game companies could insert some bit; "if you accept these t&c we own your soul for all eternity mwahahaha" and noone would notice.
     
  2. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    Blizzard actually did and someone spotted it.
     
  3. Void

    Void Well-Known Member

    I only download movies illegally so that I don't have to watch the unskippable 30-second anti-piracy advertisement at the beginning.
     
  4. elk1007

    elk1007 Well-Known Member

    Here's a relevant blog I wrote a couple weeks ago.

    Pirated Material and The DMCA


    Don't fall into the trap of assuming laws are always right.
    Legally, yes, copying a copyrighted material is a crime.

    But think about it logically.

    Laws like the DMCA act on the premise that downloading a piece of copyrighted material will somehow hurt the author of that material.

    Generally speaking, that if the person made a commercial product (digital software, games, music, etc) then by downloading it, you are taking money out of their pocket.

    This in not a logically valid argument. The arguer assumes that the person who downloaded the material would have purchased it if they could not get it for free. While this is true for a few things (like EPIC games and music) it's certainly NOT true about everything.
    Do you know how many Wiiware games I've 'pirated' and then decided were WORTHLESS and actually deleted? Most. In fact I've only kept two, and I STILL wouldn't have paid the expensive prices for them if I could not download them. (About $15 for a game that took 3 hrs. to complete; no replay value at all)

    Secondly, how often do you see other copyrighted material being offensively horded? Most images are freely available online, regardless of their copyright owner's intentions and desires.

    No no, this isn't about intellectual property, nor is it about 'protecting the author and their copyright'.

    This is about money.
    And the logical fallacy you must make in order to argue that piracy somehow 'takes money from the author' is too big for the issue to go unnoticed.

    Copyright laws SUPPRESS our freedom to run whatever digital code we want. We can't decide what to do with our own electrons anymore.
    Electrons WE purchased!
    We can't control the magnetism of our own hard discs anymore!

    You wouldn't steal a car would you?
    No.
    But if you could copy that car at no loss to the integrity of the original car, then why not?

    Think before you fall prey to the industry and their bad arguments for destroying your freedoms.
     
  5. ultra

    ultra Guest

    to some point people do steal. castlevania 3 for ds is being released this fall. knowing how the first two ds castlevania games are good, then it' only logical that the third would be just as good. knowing this, wouldn't that suggest that purchasing castlevania 3 for ds is well worth the price knowing that you'll get a good product?
     
  6. elk1007

    elk1007 Well-Known Member

    It suggests that I'm broke and will download it anyway.
     
  7. insanecrazy07

    insanecrazy07 Well-Known Member

    I have yet to find a way to completely delete that out of the image, without screwing up the sequence.
    But I like how you CAN skip it.

    I don't understand why they put that on the real discs because people would've had to have bought the actual thing to see it.
    Basically, it's telling people who don't pirate to don't pirate and they already don't. lol
     
  8. elk1007

    elk1007 Well-Known Member

    Have you tried using DVDFab?
    I noticed it has an option to cut that FBI BS out of the ISO it makes.

    I haven't tried it personally.
     
  9. anandjones

    anandjones Well-Known Member

    Void, that is a waste of time if you just want to skip that. I know you're joking.
     
  10. insanecrazy07

    insanecrazy07 Well-Known Member

    I like having backups of my DVDs because my family treats DVDs like they're cheap audio CDs.

    And all of the DVDs skip or skip chapters or loop in certain spots.

    I don't let them near my Blu Ray collection.
     
  11. cjdogger

    cjdogger Guest

    I just laugh at that "you wouldn't steal a..." scene at the start of the DVD, my answer= Oh really?... :p
     
  12. insanecrazy07

    insanecrazy07 Well-Known Member

    or "o rly?"

    lol
     
  13. Void

    Void Well-Known Member

    I wasn't being serious about that being the main reason I pirate movies, but I still think it's ironic that I can avoid anti-piracy messages by, well, pirating the movies. Otherwise, I'm plagued by them. :-\