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I have the answer to why MGS4 is never coming to X360.

Discussion in 'Gaming Lounge' started by duderedux, Oct 20, 2008.

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  1. duderedux

    duderedux Well-Known Member

    What ive heard is that Mac and Sony ericssson payed Kojima around 1.2 million, each, for in game advertising(according to Famitsu 1st week of February). Seeing as they've payed for almost 30-40% for the creation of the game, kojima can't just turn away from his benefactors, so he soldout.
     
    duderedux, Nov 17, 2008
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  2. Norlick

    Norlick New Member

    All that stuff about shortening levels and all that wouldn't happen.
    I've developed games, you can do a whole lot of stuff with surprisingly little space so long as you compress it -- look at GTA 4, Fallout 3 or Fable 2 for example.
    All Konami would need to do to get it to run on the 360 would be to compress the sound and probably a few textures, and of course go through the trouble of converting the engine to work on a 360.

    I know Kojima said it couldn't run on a 360 because of disk space, but he also said it could run on the 360 a few months before it released(then quickly retracted it, wonder why ;)), also remember that Kojima isn't a developer -- he is the director and producer, so he doesn't actually get any hands-on time with the code.

    From what I hear though, MGS4 has alot of PS3 and Mac-themed shit in there that would likely make it difficult to convert to the 360 since they'd actually need to fuck around with in-game assets and level design (presumably).
    Also judging by how they did MGS2 and 3, I'm pretty certain they'd have made the graphics engine to be tailored specifically for the PS3, which would be difficult to convert to the 360 since it runs differently.

    Wouldn't be shocked if we got a cheapo port though.
     
    Norlick, Nov 17, 2008
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  3. calvin_0

    calvin_0 Well-Known Member

    the only PS and Mac staff is

    Sony Errison Phone use ingame character
    Ipod as a item
    Powerbook
    PS3 and PSP own by ingame character.

    that isnt much....
     
    calvin_0, Nov 17, 2008
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  4. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    it's not just a case of compressing it, the target hardware then has to be able to decompress it within a reasonable timespan. With PCs this isn't a problem, the game is uncompressed during the install procedure, and PCs have massive hard disks these days. Consoles do not have such big hard disks, thus the game needs to write as little as possible to the hard disk, and decompress at runtime. With high level compression this is not feasible.
     
    Loonylion, Nov 17, 2008
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  5. duderedux

    duderedux Well-Known Member

    Look for iMacs in the background.
     
    duderedux, Nov 18, 2008
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  6. calvin_0

    calvin_0 Well-Known Member

    there is imac icon on the background? which act?
     
    calvin_0, Nov 19, 2008
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  7. 1Blacks1

    1Blacks1 Well-Known Member

    For the Same reason why

    Gears of War
    Gears of War 2
    Halo
    Halo 2
    Halo 3

    Didnt go to the PS3
     
    1Blacks1, Nov 23, 2008
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  8. diegoo_duudee

    diegoo_duudee Member

    they could sell it in an external 50 gig drive :D
    that like fits into usb port in xbox :p



    ... would be a first and why discs? why not little external devices like cartridges i mean discs are just awkward
     
    diegoo_duudee, Mar 6, 2009
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  9. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    cartridges are a hell of a lot more expensive to produce, and have a much lower capacity.
     
    Loonylion, Mar 6, 2009
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  10. BlackFlameNG

    BlackFlameNG Active Member

    You're a fool. All they have to do is remove the (pointless) 7.1 digital audio, replace it with 5.1, compress the game like every other dev team do and you can fit it on a DVD. MGS4 on the PS3 is in a totally uncompressed form. As has been proven time and time again with countless different games, compression does nothing to hurt the quality of it either. I believe all of the audio on Fable 2 was like 12 MB. And that game sounds FANTASTIC.

    If other devs can do it, I'm sure the oh-so-amazing Hideo Kojima can compress this one.
     
    BlackFlameNG, Mar 7, 2009
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  11. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    I doubt any compression can get a high enough ratio and still be able to decompress in real time.
     
    Loonylion, Mar 7, 2009
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