Another person stereotyping a race. Not all black people are 'loud, annoying attention seekers' I have a black friend who has none of these traits and detests the black minority that forwards this stereotype. Anyway, i just want to add my two cents. I understand where your coming from, not being gay myself, but you have a very valid point. You sexual orientation should not change who you are or how you act. Also a fad should not be built around something that is human nature, it's just wrong in so many ways. I admire your stalwart personality because i myself would act exactly the same.
I know some people ,homosexual and heterosexual, who are conformists. While I must say conforming isn't horrible, there's a point where its too far. The people I speak of are ,what most avid television watchers refer to as, token gays-as well as other cultures such as goth and emo, but those aren't the topic-. Always wearing the most outward things in a fanciful style and changing their actions and voice to commit to the role. Whether its really them or if its just their way of being accepted, there's still something wrong with that. I myself am a straight male who is quite committed to religion ,but I harbor no hatred to them, only sympathy.The need to change one's self to fill a role will forever be needed, but there will never be a need to become someone else to fill a role. The roles that require change to themself, define them and build them up, but neglecting their personality for another is an act of treason against one's self Changing yourself to that extreme, and worst of all ruining the public's view of people like you to be accepted. Its not only pathetic, but oppressive to the true experience others can be exposed from the true way you act and not just some symbolic-stereotypical fad that homosexuality is played off to be. I, myself, agree with your argument and must say that I don't find the existence of homosexual people bad, but merely the use of their image to market products that label them as separate from society and unworthy to be with the others. Oh yeah and by the way your rant might make it into reader's digest if you send it to them. Of course it might be too radical for them to want to take in, but nothing can be accomplished without some sort of change. Did you know that Abraham Lincoln, most likely our most likely America's greatest leader yet, was, from recent discoveries, most likely homosexual.
I have nothing personally to bring to the table since I live in a country where gay people are pretty free to do whatever they want ad not be abused for it, but this thread reminded me of an incredible tale from an amazing person within the PHP community. You can best read it on her blog linked below. I quite honestly felt like shit after reading her story, and I live several thousand miles away and had nothing to do with it. =/ http://blog.libssh2.org/index.php?/archives/130-Wait,-did-you-seriously-just-say-that.html In short: People suck and 75% of humanity need to be taught a lesson in humanity.
Dammit Seph, that story made me so furious. I would love to just beat those people to a pulp for what they did to their own blood.
I've known families knife their own in the back for no reason other than selfish greed. My US friend lost his inheritance to his father's greedy relatives (they were already more than well off, while he is below the poverty line). he's disabled therefore they think he's an inferior being. It got so bad at one point that Patton threatened to fly across the US and forcibly remove them from the premises.
Thank fucking god. You share my opinion. Although I'm straight, I have a lot of 'gay' friends, and GOD i hate it when people say 'LOL he's gay' or 'you're a fag' or 'that game's gay' It really shocks me to see that homosexuals are actually living in fear, or rather, living in a 'fake ID' of sorts. It sickens me to know that you have to lie about your own identity, for if you revealed that you are indeed not heterosexual, you may be abandoned, even attacked. It's also really annoying when STRAIGHT people wear shirts like 'Gay Pride' or 'I like him/her... that's right!' It's just AGHH Annoying. Indeed, being 'gay' has become fad of sorts recently, and it is getting on my nerves.
I think it's more that they want a normal life. The only thing that's different about them is that they have different sexual preferences to the mass majority. It's like saying that black people should have to live in fear of being attacked or abandoned by friends just because they're black (oh wait yeah that still happens...) But it's the fact that society treats them as if they're completely different to everyone else is the irritating problem that's in place. I too have a problem with people who say "gay" in place of irritating or a word like that (I've recently tried to cut down on it myself because i have realised it's offensive, mostly thanks to this post). 'Gay' people should be able to live normal lives as we all do, because really what they choose to do in PRIVATE (remember, the only really offensive part to the church etc. is done privately, unless they're really weird...) should have no effect on how the world reacts to them when they're in the PUBLIC.
That would be exactly what I would want - I don't want special treatment, I don't want to have to ever live a lie or be afraid of other people... I'd much rather just like to be left alone and to live my own life, and to have everyone know me as "Dan the Man" (rhymes are awesome in my book, and it just so happens to be a clever way of saying that said person "Dan" is mundane) and not "Dan the Gay Kid". ^ that, basically. Even though I've actually talked to my friends and asked them not to do so (which was something I never wanted to do or ever do again), some of my friends still regularly use "gay" and "fag" in derogatory terms, and even take to saying "Don't be such a faggot" when I do something wrong (like leave them for dead in Left4Dead ). I don't like it when I'm called that - I'm not going to go cry or get fired up, but I'd much rather be called by my own name - and I would think that these people know better, knowing me... but even to have to think that I should have to change them, and going so far as to ask them to change is what really gets me down at the end of the day.
When you've got freinds that are like that, are they really considered freinds? I mean it's only common sense, that if they know your gay...they atleast try to make you feel as normal as you should be. I really get annoyed by people like that, where they feel they have the right, to offend anyone, even if they feel they're just joking around. A normal or good friend, would respect and accept your sexuality, and and not say stupid things like "Don't be such a faggot", that to me is really childish.
if they were friends with him long before he came out as gay, then they might just be speaking without thinking.
I know...and that's probably 100% the case. But they should atleast think about others before they say such nonsence.
some are just friends with you because you share the same interest of Objects and without those Objects they won't even get near you nor talk to you.
Oh Yeah! What do you guys talk about? Music(CD),Literature(BOOK),RUMORS(LIES or TRUTH),WOMAN(SEXY & ASS) as i can see and here they're physical goods and when it comes to economics, people buy stuff to impress others and to satisfy they're never ending greed. Post Merge: [time]1244729023[/time] i bet they advertise what gay people likes it's because they sell. Post Merge: [time]1244725774[/time] they don't like you because of your personality they like you because you like talk about the same stuff without those stuff you would'nt even know what to communicate and they will even say you've change just because he/she did'nt like what you did,a rumor was raised againts you or because you have different interest and believe this won't work anymore.
Wow, I totally missed that... and thank you for the link, Seph. It's reasons like that, where someone can't even say goodbye to a loved one and to someone who loved them in return because of some bigoted prick... that's why I've no faith in humanity. They really do just talk like that, and it's not entirely concerning. However, this isn't my first choice of friends, but the group whose company I do enjoy is breaking up, with its members moving across both the country and the world, so I have to work with this group, instead >.< (I apologize in advance for any wrongdoings.) One day, my friend had a girlfriend break up with him. I hadn't talked to him much about it, but I began seeing some downturns in his actions and in his mannerisms - he just wasn't as bright and cheery has he had once been. On a Friday, he asked me to come home with him, but didn't specify any reason. Upon arriving at his home and his uncleaned room, however, it didn't take long to figure out. On his desk were a number of razors. His parents were away for the weekend. He had a selfish personality. We sat and talked for almost two hours, and he just said whatever he needed to about his life and his problems. I, effectively, saved his life. I was a friend, a true friend, in a moment where he could come to never exist anymore. We talked nothing of the superficial, of the economic, of the material things we had purchased, but of the things that actually matter of this world - human nature. And, in the context of the conversation, I had nothing else in common with him on the matter. Nevermind that we do talk about games, music, books, things at school, who we have crushes on (or, rather, who he has a crush on - these people are ridiculous when it comes to women xD), because that's just stuff to talk about. We enjoy talking. I didn't think it was ever right to say this, but... c740, your opinion is wrong. And the fact that one Alec Richey is alive to this day is just enough reason to prove that. The reason that I, myself, am still alive, is because I have built friends not upon the superficial elements of the relationship, but on the deep connections we have. There have been multiple moments in my life wherein people, not quite unlike yourself, have made me feel as though I should not only die, but I would be doing the world a favor through the ending of my own life. I only know three people who share one interest that I do - homosexuality - and I have yet to ever talk to them about that key interest, as I talk to my friends, my honest-to-God friends, about that first. And the fact that I have to defend my own existence and who I befriend is just sick.
I had never really expected a person to be boiled down to a statistic. I claimed his name in the hopes that he could possibly be seen as an actual human being, and not a series of characters or numbers in a database, in the same way that the woman in Seph's link is presumed to be real because I try, perhaps too much, to be human and understand their personal sufferings.
I'd raise the percentage but so true... And why does everyone have to fit into a stereotype these days? I actually had a group of people trying to define me into a "group", they eventually came up with "outcast" and "bogan" because I don't do anything particularly related to any stereotype. I hate people... I really do...
I am all for gay rights, gender and sexual equality... equality in general. There is absolutely nothing "wrong" with being a homosexual: as is my principle, you don't disturb me, I don't disturb you. But what I don't like and seem to get tired of are homosexuals being so _verbose_ about the fact that they are indeed, gay or lesbian. It's understandable that sexual preference is a sensitive issue, but there comes a point where you need to simply live life, in spite of all that is wrong and all that isn't going your way. By doing this and say, not making such an event out of it, you are effectively preventing it from being a so-called "fad". I.e. I understand the plight of homosexuals and their fight for their rights, but after reading so many blog posts, so many stories, so many rants on how gays are being persecuted such and such, how you feel about homosexuality, etc. It becomes... tiring and doesn't serve your cause well. To put it simply : Yes, we know you're gay, and we're OK with it. Live life already. (no need for emo rants on facebook/myspace/blogs/ etc. no offense to the OP)