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Honesty..Is it good, or just playing naive?

Discussion in 'Debates' started by XD9999, Aug 21, 2008.

  1. booo95

    booo95 New Member

    Honesty is good at times, bad at others. If you spilled something then it would be a good thing to be honest since you don't want someone who didn't do anything to get blamed. If you reported a murderer to the police then you don't want your name posted all over the city so the guy can find you and kill you.
     
  2. XD9999

    XD9999 Well-Known Member

    so if honesty is good at "times" then would that mean that it is bad all the time?
     
  3. Barathrum

    Barathrum Well-Known Member

    Sometimes, its hard to be honest, though it's easy to say honesty is good. For you, for someone else you may find yourself lying time and time again.
     
  4. Fearon

    Fearon Well-Known Member

    I personally would wanna know if I smelled bad. You have to think. Would you rather be told you smell horrible, or just go about your day with people talkin' behind your back.

    That's true. We each have different conceptions of "truth" if you go through five years of your parents telling you that brown is red. You get into kindergarden and the teacher's goin' to have a serious talk with your parents.
     
  5. Krusha

    Krusha Well-Known Member

    Imagine my usual scenario:
    person: "Krusha, why won't you come to the mall with me?"

    now, I have 2 options:

    lie: "Sorry I just don't have time, maybe later k?"
    truth: "because I dont give a damn about you!"

    Another scenario
    Friend: "How do I look?"

    Lie: "great :)"
    Truth: "your fat, those colours are horrible and the piercing makes you like a retard -.-"

    Honesty is rarely the best policy
     
  6. calvin_0

    calvin_0 Well-Known Member

    well here is how i handle your scenario

    Friend: hey, come out and have a drink
    Me: nah, this game/movie is too intresting to stop now (truth)

    Since my friend didnt ask how they look.......

    Mom: *while shopping* How do i look in this dress
    Me: like you always do (truth)

    PS: my mom is a single parent, so she always drag me to go shoping......shopping with mom is hard work....since i'm the one who end up carrying everything, everytime.....
     
  7. XD9999

    XD9999 Well-Known Member

    thats freaking genius...
     
  8. knightroad

    knightroad Well-Known Member

    In my humble and yet idiotic opinion, no offense girls here, it is impossible to keep a girlfriend without learning to be a good liar!

    Sure, I am honest with her about all the big and important things. But when she really really likes that new sweater and asks me how she looks, you bet your bottom dollar I am going to tell her exactly what she wants to hear! Otherwise she will get revenge on my later and it could potentially ruin a great evening.

    So lie, lie, lie with good intentions I say!

    In fact I have literally practiced in front of a mirror saying, "No, honey, you don't look fat in that jackect, pants, shirt, and so on..."

    This is why every man needs to learn to play poker so they can properly practice keeping a steady gaze and proper expression for the bluff.
     
  9. ultra

    ultra Guest

    this is a double edge sword argument.

    if you tattle on a person, it is good and it is bad. look at the simpson's episode when bart did something bad in the church and the reverend tells the kids that if they don't tell who did it they will go to hell. milhouse tattles on bart and bart gets in trouble. not only does bart get into trouble so does milhouse as he tattled on bart. here is the episode [ http://www.wtso.net/movie/94-The ]

    it's double edged because no matter if you did what was right, you still end up doing something wrong.
     
  10. atmizi69

    atmizi69 Well-Known Member

    i think you should use honesty only when necessary. honesty is NOT the best policy. Don't ever tell a girl they are fat or their hair look like instant noodles.

    You can be honest to your best friend though, just don't try any of that honesty crap with overly sensitive people (especially people with ovaries :D)

    USE HONESTY WITH CAUTION
     
  11. Krusha

    Krusha Well-Known Member

    Those are different scenarios...

    and for you those answers might be truthful, but those one's would be a lie for me as well anyway
     
  12. sniper5252

    sniper5252 Active Member

    Take for instance this scenario, one of my grandad's friends was diagnosed with cancer. He went to hospital and then told his children that he would be out in a few weeks right after he had been diagnosed as terminally ill.

    Was this the right thing to do to lie to his children so that they wouldn't be worrying about him? Older people tend to think they are causing a burden on the world if they ask for anything.
     
  13. Natewlie

    Natewlie A bag of tricks

    This is the best sentence I've ever read regarding honesty.

    Regarding children and lies. I usually tell them the truth, why? Because they always tell me the truth. Always. Always, always. Toddlers do not figure out how to lie until a certain age. When I get the inevitable question "Mommy, where do babies/I come from?" I'll tell them that they were in my tummy. When I was young I was always content with that answer. I would also tell them the truth about death and things like that, sure it's unsettling, but I feel that children no matter what age have rights and they should know that that certain person isn't coming back. And on sickness, it's good to be optimistic about it with kids.

    It depends on the girl, I assure you. Usually an insecure girl will ask if a certain clothe looks fat on them, because like, that certain article of clothing adds about twenty pound on their figure, right? -_-

    I ask if something looks good on me, and I want to hear the honest answer from my hubby or my kids because I don't want to look bad or anything. I always expect my husband to be honest with me, always, always. Unless I ever ask the fat question (which I probably won't, I am secure with my body, and I'm not fat anyways), because if it's a 'yes you look fat' then that's just starting a whole thing of insecurity.

    I also find it hard to lie, I don't know. Meh.
     
  14. mds64

    mds64 Well-Known Member

    I have always believed in the truth, but now I prefer the lie...

    I lost a best friend because of the truth-I was just being honest and all, explaining what I've done...(we had some trouble and I was mearly explaining my actions)

    But if I never told them I might have still had them-sure it was rocky but still I would rather a partial friend rather than an regretable enemy (well to them I'm the enemy-I see it as them defending themselves and I would have done the same)