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god, do you exists?!

Discussion in 'Debates' started by ultra, Feb 26, 2008.

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  1. BloodVayne

    BloodVayne Well-Known Member

    There is no "and yet". The Islamic belief is that Muhammad is the last one (aka the last prophet). And it is sort of like a chain of beliefs, in which the end is Islam. Judaism, then Christianity, then Islam. A glance at the doctrines/ books of the three religions note that they are essentially just different "versions" of one faith. They believe in the same God.

    If you're trying to make people question their beliefs or rethink their faiths, that kind of statement isn't doing your cause any good. If you just want to attack everyone who believes in religion/ has certain beliefs, then by all means go right ahead. Your message is fine, but the way you're putting it out sounds like you're just pissed off at religion itself and the idiots you claim to follow it.
     
  2. gaynorvader

    gaynorvader Well-Known Member

    And yet they all have their own version of Him. Christians believe God to be kindly, just and forgiving, whereas the Jewish God isrewarding only to the Jewish people and wrathful to other races, and the Islamic God will accept you into heaven if you commit suicide and murder for him, completely against the sixth commandment "Thou Shalt Not Kill".
     
  3. elk1007

    elk1007 Well-Known Member

    God does not exist.

    If he does, you can't prove it.

    /endtopic
     
  4. RegalSpit

    RegalSpit Active Member

    Yes you can prove it, but it depends wether or not you are willing to take in the proofs. I mean no one can force you to believe something, even if you are presented with clear facts that it's true. You have a choice wether to believe or not.
     
  5. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    you cannot prove it to a scientifically accepted level of proof.
     
  6. RegalSpit

    RegalSpit Active Member

    Science Isn't everything. All scientists do Is uncover things that have always been there, they are always trying to create theories to point to evolution, natural causes e.t.c.

    They think we evolved from monkeys... If we did, monkeys wouldn't be around today. And If intelligence isn't a blessing only humans have, why aren't there any other intelligent beings on Earth? How come come other animals aren't intelligent enough, to think, imagine, theoritise, create, resolve problems e.t.c? Why isn't my dog Nipper smart enough to join me here on forums?... Because it was the descendants of Man Adam and Eve that ate the fruits of the tree of life and gained knowledge, not them.
     
  7. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    heard of subspecies?

    There are.

    they do, Animals are at least as intelligent as humans. Besides, define intelligence.
     
  8. BloodVayne

    BloodVayne Well-Known Member

    You just indirectly proved that they are related! Thanks! Let me repeat this: They worship the same God. It is different versions of a faith. Now Islam = suicide loving and Jews = own race loving? Source?

    You know what? Let's just end this topic. What is the point of debate if everyone thinks they are right, and won't even attempt to question their own beliefs. Evolution is our BEST explanation of how things are the way they are.

    Stop posting, and let's end this topic. Hear, hear!
     
  9. gaynorvader

    gaynorvader Well-Known Member

    My point wasn't that their god's hadn't all stemmed from the same one, my point was that they all had radically different ideas on how He wanted them to behave.
     
  10. BloodVayne

    BloodVayne Well-Known Member

    Agreed. That's why I said, they're different versions.
     
  11. elk1007

    elk1007 Well-Known Member

    No. -_-'

    We evolved from a common ancestor as monkeys (which wasn't a mammal). We're actually so similar to ape that's we're classified as great apes. Our genome is identical, save for 2 chromosomes that have been proven to have fused. If you understood evolution at all, you'd know that it branches and works on populations, so whatever creature was our branch point would evolve in some regions and evolve (or die off) in others.
    Remember Darwin's Finches?

    Why isn't your dog smart enough to reflect upon their thoughts? Because they don't have the higher brain function.
    Why can't you smell as well as your dog? Or hibernate for as long as a bear? Or swim as well as a dolphin?
    Why don't human's posses any of the other countless abilities of 'less intelligent' animals?

    Because species evolve to suite their environments, and our intelligence just happens to be a great thing for our survival.

    Oh, and then you RANDOMLY inject Adam and Eve into your post.

    WHAT. THE. FUCK?

    Completely , non-sequiter.

    Am I right everyone?

    Example of how retarded you sound to me:
    We can't swim as well as dolphins because only NorFin and Squall consumed fishies of the coral reef of Swim-Swim >_>
     
  12. cjdogger

    cjdogger Guest

    If the story about Adam and Eve is true then we are all incestious creatures or our ancestors have committed bestiality, EAT THAT GOD BELIEVERS!!! Apperantly your so-called god condemned your ancestors to such attrocities! This proves that the Adam and Eve story is fake because we wouldn't have been able to survive...
     
  13. elk1007

    elk1007 Well-Known Member

    Additionally, incest leads to horrendous genetic problems within the first few generations.
     
  14. cjdogger

    cjdogger Guest

    That's what i'm talking about, they couldn't survive even if they did have incest...
     
  15. gaynorvader

    gaynorvader Well-Known Member

    Actually, the problems with incest only appear when the population of a species is above a certain point.
     
  16. elk1007

    elk1007 Well-Known Member

    Like cheetahs.....lol.
     
  17. RegalSpit

    RegalSpit Active Member

    C'mon guys, religion is a sensitive subject, you know your bound to offend someone with a topic like this. Isn't this site one that conveys equal rights upon it's users? It's descrimination, no different from racism or sexism. You may not think so, but for those of us who are christian it feels like a personal attack.
     
  18. RegalSpit

    RegalSpit Active Member

    In the beggining there would have had to have been two of each species so they could "Do it" and spread their species across the world... But where did these species come from if they weren't created?
    ... I'm confused ???

    Was everything asexual? Did they root themselves to make their babies? Can you imagine a dog making itself pregnant? This world is way weird...
     
  19. cjdogger

    cjdogger Guest

    We evolved from Billions of organisms that were a result of the big bang, evolution from things like Amoebas to Fish like creatures with spines to land creatures and so on...

    A triop is like the type of things we evolved from
     
  20. elk1007

    elk1007 Well-Known Member

    No. It's not discrimination on a DEBATE FORUM.
    If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.

    Dogs are incredibly complex structures and did NOT exist at the beginning of anything. Even the simple cell structure is so complex that it probably took millions of years to evolve from more simplistic chemical reactions in the earth's oceans. Yes, everything reproduced asexually as sexual organs and the instinct needed to use sex as a way to reproduce are very complex. Stop imagining the beginning of life like you see life today.
     
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