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Does Obama deserves the Nobel Peace Prize?

Discussion in 'Debates' started by damanali, Oct 9, 2009.

  1. ace1o1

    ace1o1 Well-Known Member

    Or your parents have been born in America.
    At least one of them has to be.

    Also, if you are born on American claimed lands, such as a territory or military base, then you are American as well.

    Read up on the Constitution and the Amendments. ;)
     
  2. tyson_rss

    tyson_rss Guest

    indonesia isn't neither of those so you go check up on that too.
     
  3. ace1o1

    ace1o1 Well-Known Member

    If you're parents were born in America, and you were born in another country (even Indonesia), then you are an American.

    Actually, you'll have a dual-citizenship.
    You will be a citizen of both countries until the age of either 16, 18, or 21...not sure on which one exactly.
     
  4. ricky_

    ricky_ Well-Known Member

    He has a birth certificate from Hawaii. Infowars is telling you bullshit, and you're eating it up like yogurt while giving them ad money to continue supporting their crazy agenda and vicious circle. You have not discovered anything amazing, Infowars hasn't discovered anything amazing, you're all just a bunch of paranoid birthers with absolutely nothing better to do with your time then make paranoid assumptions about the president to justify your hate of him, his operation of the government, or whatever loony idea you have.

    You want to know how bad people like you are taking things? Hawaii just passed legislation to IGNORE requests about it because you guys are overflowing the system from legitimate resources. He has a birth certificate, and proof of live birth, and the latter was documented during his presidency run, and none of this is fake because if you take the time to Google it and dig through the flood of bullshit from people like yourself, you'd see evidence like this.

    Find something better to do with your time. Get a job, get a hobby, or for fucks sake, get an education, because all you birthers sound absolutely dumb right now, and have had since this non-sense started.
     
  5. tyson_rss

    tyson_rss Guest

    no ill still stand to my belief, i dont agree with everything alex says but i do know obama's a pawn and he passed a bill without our consent violating an amendment right.
     
  6. Reider

    Reider Modereider

    Keep it civil please. I don't want to have to lock this thread too.

    Thanks. :)
     
  7. tyson_rss

    tyson_rss Guest

    that wasn't intended to be an insult, please change it back.
     
  8. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    And Bush didn't? Heard of the patriot act?
     
  9. tyson_rss

    tyson_rss Guest

    i know bush was as much a pawn as obama is. the last true president we had was kennedy. they took care of him because he was going to abolish the fed. so since than the presidency has had no choice but to follow orders from their corrupt masters. if mckain was in office he'd be doing the same as well, obama is very fluient when he speaks so all the sheep are easily decieved. im not just bashing obama he just happens to be president now.
     
  10. ace1o1

    ace1o1 Well-Known Member

    You sound like a friend of mine, saying that the Federal Reserve controls every aspect of this country.

    Then, that sounds to me like Metal Gear Solid II. XP
     
  11. tyson_rss

    tyson_rss Guest

    well it isn't the first they tried, back in the 19th century they were abolished because back than our government knew the deal and had the balls to take them out, now since roosevelt brung them back they're hear to try again, and sadly they're succeeding because we can't find the courage to back off. federal reserve is indeed corrupt and i have many reasons how, but im limited to my psp at the moment.
     
  12. melfice666

    melfice666 Well-Known Member

    no,he hasnt done anything so drastic,he still has wars on his hands to solve,he has only said things that he would do
     
  13. ricky_

    ricky_ Well-Known Member

    I'm totally letting you know that you will never get laid if this is what you think about all the time (and it surely seems like you do).

    The Federal Reserve, like it or not, is here to stay. All you're doing is spouting rhetoric about how the system is broken and how a bunch of higher-up people are colluding to destroy the system... but guess what? It's going to happen anyways, because while you hate the idea of a central bank existing, it needs to exist in order to maintain a fluid supply of currency, to regulate interest rates, and to prevent 50 different currencies from operating between states. No system is perfect, and while the Fed isn't perfect, a system without one would've had the economy collapse many times over by now, if not total wild-west style chaos in the financial system.

    If all it takes is a domain name and charisma to make you believe random shit, then I can see where you're coming from. But I assure you that without the system in it's current place, you'd have nothing of what you have, and the country's infrastructure would be many times worse if not completely non-existent. But go ahead and keep on believing in the no-government utopia--tell me how that works (protip: it doesn't).

    Quick question, now... how did this come about from the topic again?
     
  14. insanecrazy07

    insanecrazy07 Well-Known Member

    The economy would pick back up again if he and the dumbasses running Congress would leave it alone and let it recover on its own. But no, he has to sit there and pass Health Care bills, Cap and Trade, expanding the powers of the Fed, and anything else with a Socialist stamp on it. And you think he deserves a Nobel prize for this?
     
  15. ace1o1

    ace1o1 Well-Known Member

    No he doesn't.

    insane...you have the same idea about the govn't as I do. :)
    I don't like the guy, but what can I do?
    I wasn't old enough to vote. :\

    I hate socialism.
     
  16. Suiseiseki

    Suiseiseki Well-Known Member

    ITT: People not used to the idea of anything that isn't right wing, idiots, and ricky.
     
  17. insanecrazy07

    insanecrazy07 Well-Known Member

    These are all just methods to "control the people," as quoted by my dumbass representative, John Dingell, and even more ways to redistribute wealth. Only 53% of the American population pay taxes, where the other 47% receive benefit from at least one government welfare program.

    Obama's even said himself that there is a point where you've made enough money. Coming from the man who has written two autobiographies, and was one of the two top senators who benefited the most from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, despite the bankruptcy. I think HE'S made enough money.
     
  18. tyson_rss

    tyson_rss Guest

    Err... well yeah I will keep believing that the government is evil, and I will keep believing that the Fed is corrupt. Like I said before, I don't believe everything over there at infowars, but I do my own research, and that's what Alex encourages. I barely listen to the guy now, all he does it seems to me is spook people and change their mindsets to making people believe they are totally helpless against these people, thus is why I stopped listening to him.

    Anyhow, like I said the Fed's are in control, bottom line, sure we maybe living because of them but its only a matter of time before that goes down the drain.
    Easy, debates tend to linger into other subjects.
     
  19. Lukong

    Lukong Well-Known Member

    Does the first black President of a country who one disliked black people deserve the noble piece prize.
    The whole point of the noble piece prize is award those who have done the impossible and made it possible like Mother Teresa who helped the people in India, Mahatma Gandhi who liberated India from Britain and Nelson Mandela who runs the country that Britain tried to and took over[Its where I got the idea why people under 21 to women to 16 year old weren't and not able to vote]
     
  20. kingdaddy

    kingdaddy Member

    okay the man did something incredbile and was first black prsident. but thats not enough people judge this way too much on color.(not racist) but if say he doesnt desreve people think they have something aginst him. in reality he hasnt done nothing expect just be a president. i dont even agree with his bills or even the plans so far. i think what he doing is jump to a quick fix and trying to live to many people expections.. this quick fixs he doing will eventually come back at the USA