do not buy championship manager 2010

not when the same bugs are in all the games that ive played from the same developer since 2003 and they show no promise of fixing those bugs..dont get me wrong i enjoyed all of the games, but id say after 7 years of complaints from customers if they dont fix it, i wont buy it. ive probably lost 60+ hours of gameplay from corrupt saves and havent seen one patch to fix it for any of those games.. i havent played the "special edition" Jade Empire for PC so i cant speak for that game..

there's nothing worse than praying that your 20+hours of gameplay actually loads up each time without getting corrupted..especially when a game can kill your save just by you changing/loading new areas i know you agree with me there haha.

i can kinda understand bethesda's save problem since theres so much to save/load, but not a 20-30 hour game thats doesnt have 20% of the total game content as any of bethesda's games and you can cure Oblivion's save bug just by moving your save before you start a new game. though i personally dont think you should release a game that can't properly save your data.. its like a set of rapid fire kicks to the junk

 

I forgot to mention that a lot of the bugs from Oblivion are present in Fallout 3, and it uses the same engine. You can say that it's because it's such a large world, but it's the same engine, there's very little excuse for bugs like that.

The difference between the Bioware games you mention and the Bethesda ones I mentioned is that Bioware uses different engines, they each bring along their own sets of bugs, and I have never encountered a bug in ME1/2. And I've played through the game 2 and a half times.

Meanwhile my first playthrough of Oblivion or Fallout 3 came with bugs, Oblivion not that bad (although I haven't played through the entire game because I didn't like it), but Fallout 3 having to restart because of a corrupted save file or the NPC dying. Again, still using the same engine as before, why haven't they optimized it? Why haven't they fixed a single thing? Why do the characters still have the most awkward animations? etc. Fallout 3 could've been a lot better if they optimized the engine better and redid animations and a couple of other things. I'm actually disgusted that they're still using the same engine for New Vegas, and I'm pretty sure it'll have the same set of bugs.

The only bugs in ME1/2 I've encountered (I haven't heard of any other bug, actually) is the infinite paragon/renegade glitch.

That save thing you mention about Oblivion renders your file corrupted after making a new character, right? Having a 200+ hour save file, then having it corrupted because you didn't have the knowledge about the new character thing, then you render a 200+ save file useless, that'd piss me off a lot more than having a 10 hour save file gone. Especially considering ME1/2 have quicksaves every so often, Oblivion apparently corrupts every save.

 

i only lost a 30 hour game in Oblivion before i found out about new games corrupting the save files and 30 hours in an Elder scrolls game isnt much to lose to me since i can play for another 30 hours and not repeat anything i did before.. unlike Mass effect where i could only choose different dialog answers but thats hard to argue since Oblivion isnt linear like Mass Effect... another reason i wont be bothering with ME:3 is the fact that i didnt really care for the storylines in the ME series but the bugs that i encountered influence that decision as well..and running into the same bug throughout 4 of Bioware's games regardless of the engine they're using (i did feel that argument made a valid point though) just infuriates me haha. just curious did you play ME:2 on the PC or the 360? i bought it for PC so that might be the difference...

i only had the bad save thing happen to me once in Oblivion, but i copy my save folder and remove its contents before i start a new game not just copy the files to a different location and delete them in-game. which might make a difference, my 100+hour save file from 4 months ago still works fine when i move it back...

as for Fallout 3 i might have a different view of Bethesda when i buy it and play through it haha if i encounter the same bugs you are...

 

I play on the 360, I've played FO3 on the PC and 360, ME only on 360.

It's pretty damn buggy and unfixable on the 360. It was a lot better on the PC because of mods fixing the game, despite the memory leaks (performance going doooown).

 

yea, the main reason im all about pc gaming is modding and i can use xpadder and my 360 controller to play any game. mods make the difference especially since i wont have been able to play oblivion full speed without the "quiet feet" mod because my sound card is the pc equivalent of a cassette player haha


and im sorry msg but i cant even find anything on this game .. it barely exists on the net...

 

thats because nobody can play it!
ive got it working on my dads pc and its pretty poor compared to football manager so still dont buy it even if it works.
my dads pc has worse specs than mine in every area, the only thing is his has win 7 home premium and i have win 7 ultimate