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Do Aliens Exist?

Discussion in 'Debates' started by unqiueninja, May 24, 2010.

  1. iluvfupaburgers

    iluvfupaburgers Well-Known Member

    ok, im sorry, but, do you know what my point is? WTF of course its centuries old, its the bible. i dont see your point. Implications are valid, that is why many religions use the bible as their book, but have different interpretations of it, there is no right interpretation of it. apparently you dont get the point made here, religion and aliens just cant go together, thats it, if you believe in both, ok, whatever, but both just dont go
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    those are called exoplanets that are planets that have similar properties as earth
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrasolar_planet
     
  2. Omega_2

    Omega_2 Strings Cat

    When something is centuries old, it tends to be purposely misinterpeted/translated for their overall gain, hence religion.

    umadbro?
     
  3. iluvfupaburgers

    iluvfupaburgers Well-Known Member

    one thing about aliens though. why would they choose, among an infinite number of planets. come to earth? and how do they do it? probably worm holes
     
  4. tehuber1337

    tehuber1337 Well-Known Member

    You must be a real sucker for punishment, if you're contradicting yourself like this. If "there is no right interpretation" then you have no right to claim as fact that religion and aliens cannot coexist.

    I do know what your point is (a shame you can't say the same of mine), and the fatal flaw in your "argument" is that religion asserts that the entire universe was created solely for humanity. As I said, you're wrong. The implications you speak of fail to even grasp at straws in supporting your assertion. There is simply nothing in any religious text that would allow you to validly make such claims.

    Here's a Bible. Note verse 26, which says "let [man] have dominion over all the Earth.

    If that's not enough for you, allow me to formally eviscerate your "logic".
    Premise 1. The universe exists so that Earth can exist.
    Premise 2. Earth exists so that humans can exist.
    Conclusion: The universe exists so that humans can exist.

    This is a teleological fallacy wherein you presuppose that an act or thing has a defined purpose.

    It's also a propositional fallacy of the form "if the universe was created for Earth, then the Earth was created for humans. The Earth was created for humans, therefore the universe was created for Earth". This argument is invalid because even if both premises are true, the first is not necessarily (nor can you prove it to be) the only condition leading to the second.

    To add to the list, we have a compositional fallacy, a fallacy of the single cause, a false dilemma and reversed cause and effect.

    If you still want more, I play one card face down and end my turn.

    I gotta say though, it's no fun refuting morons like you. It's like shooting drunk fish in a bucket.
     
  5. iluvfupaburgers

    iluvfupaburgers Well-Known Member

    please, seriously, stop calling me a moron. or stupid or retarded, why are you saying all this shit about me, seriously, do i know you? why this personal grudge against me
    i see your point here, its good.
    ok, so there is some interpretations in the bible that can be taken as alien like http://www.hymns.me.uk/41-elijahs-ascent-in-a-chariot-of-fire-bible-story.htm
    this is interesting.
    oh, and its good evidence, instead of calling me idiot or moron, you could have just shown me this, and i would have changed my mind
     
  6. Littlekill

    Littlekill Well-Known Member

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    Sums up the bullshit
     
  7. iluvfupaburgers

    iluvfupaburgers Well-Known Member

    lolololololol
    Littlekill, youre right, why are we talking about religion, religion is not even exact.
    this again, to keep on topic again
     
  8. tehuber1337

    tehuber1337 Well-Known Member

    To be honest, insulting you is fun.
     
  9. iluvfupaburgers

    iluvfupaburgers Well-Known Member

    because i get angry? lololol
    http://library.thinkquest.org/C003763/index.php?page=concepts04
    check this out, its types of civilizations. we are type 0, and aliens should probably be on type 3
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    if they exist, and it will take ages till we become a type 3
     
  10. Devon

    Devon Well-Known Member

    I remember reading something that said that as you get further to the edge of the universe space become pitch white, then as you reach the edge of our universe and the next one there's just a giant wall of eldritch awesome munching away on the white space like it's white choco cake.

    I love fiction, wayyy better than real life. Comprehend colour in space and I'm totally off-topic.
     
  11. Littlekill

    Littlekill Well-Known Member

    yeah fucking right, Type 3 civilization just feels like such an impossibility at this time. I would say the most advanced are probably type 2
     
  12. iluvfupaburgers

    iluvfupaburgers Well-Known Member

    yes, but it kinda explains how maybe aliens could be getting here. since it mentions dimension travels and all that. since planets can even be light years away from ours
     
  13. ace1o1

    ace1o1 Well-Known Member

    Most planets are. The newest planet that some scientists found, that they are having orgasms over, is about 15 light-years, or 90 trillion miles, away from us.
     
  14. Littlekill

    Littlekill Well-Known Member

    20 light years to be exact!
     
  15. chaunceez

    chaunceez Well-Known Member

    I think they capture hillbillys and anle prob em while the hillbilys are singing there hillbilly song XD
     
  16. unqiueninja

    unqiueninja Well-Known Member

    haha ;D
     
  17. chaunceez

    chaunceez Well-Known Member

    Its true though.....They did it to MEEE.
     
  18. unqiueninja

    unqiueninja Well-Known Member

    really?
     
  19. chaunceez

    chaunceez Well-Known Member

    TES ITS ALL NOT TRUE....URRR... I mean TRUE
    YOu CaN tRuSt m3

    *xxEpicPredators Twitching.......
     
  20. unqiueninja

    unqiueninja Well-Known Member

    Better change into alien ;D