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Death penalty

Discussion in 'Debates' started by atmizi69, Apr 19, 2009.

  1. MR4Y

    MR4Y Well-Known Member

    For the most part, "gay people" want to have way more rights than straight people. Not sure what makes them so "special", apart from their sexual preference.

    For pedophiles and rapists, chemical castration could work.

    Death penalty is a bad thing, but think about it from other perspective. You blame authorities for applying death penalties, even though we have serial killers and stuff that doesn't give a damn to how many people they killed.

    If I'm not wrong, there's one country that kills a criminal the exact same way they commited the crime.
     
  2. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    I meant the person who was killed was innocent as opposed to hitler who was guilty of many bad things
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    So the taxpayer should pay millions every year to support them? and people escape from prisons all the time.

    The death penalty is also useful as a deterrant in the same way nuclear weapons are, nobody ever launched a nuke because the knew the penalty and im quite sure that if you knew you would die if you killed someone you wouldn't even think about it. unless you have a scew loose of course.
    It would save a few lives and save the country money, theres no downside to it as far as im concerned.
     
  3. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    It costs more to execute someone than keep them in prison for life. except in holiday camp prisons.
     
  4. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    i'll do it for minimum wage :)
     
  5. calvin_0

    calvin_0 Well-Known Member

    is those chemical for lethal injection or gasing or electricity to power the chair really cost that much?

    i dont know about that, right now with lethal injection, death penalty doesnt seems scary. they should use slow and painful death as death penalty (like strangled instead of hanging). Murderer shouldnt given the leisure of peaceful death. The more violent the death is, the better it scared people into obedient... obviously it wont work for psychopathy killer nor pro killer.
     
  6. MR4Y

    MR4Y Well-Known Member

    So basically you want to lower your degree to the same of a criminal in order to apply a death penalty that sounds good for the eyes of society(or for your eyes)? That won't work in many ways. Remember that a criminal has nothing to lose, and the government has a lot. Making a death penalty scary will not make people stop commiting crimes, it'll only make people ponder if death penalty is really that necessary, stopping the death penalty law in a matter of months.
     
  7. mr. awesome

    mr. awesome Well-Known Member

    It doesn't seem scary? Death by many shots doesn't seem scary? I suppose that the fact that many executed prisoners whom die via the pure shock and agony of a "painkilling" shot, that is often injected into both sides of the neck, even though only once is necessary isn't scary. It's not scary to think that a chemical that stops your heart from beating is your way of leaving this world. No, scary is to keep a prisoner locked up. Because he might get out. He might target you. Death is scary, but not a legal death. No, execution isn't scary at all, the fear that you might in the tiny tiny odds be murdered by that person is scary.
     
  8. awesomebros

    awesomebros Well-Known Member

    It's some form of sodium. It's pretty cheap.

    What the hell is wrong with you? I don't think that gives our country a very good image. With the lethal injection, you have 20 more seconds to live. I don't think anything else can be scarier. In twenty seconds, you could be thinking of how you wasted your life.

    If you're sentenced to the death penalty, you're already rendered as useless. No need to get killed in a violent way.
     
  9. gaynorvader

    gaynorvader Well-Known Member

    [quote author=unknown(by me anyway)]
    When a state, being of sound mind, kills someone in cold blood and then tries to pass it off as justice, a deeper evil is being committed.
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    Right, I'll try and explain this. I meant; when a country passes a death sentence on someone and kills them, then tries to claim that it was in the name of justice, that's wrong. That's worse than someone committing murder, because the country is claiming that killing is okay. Guilt and innocence don't come into it.
     
  10. BloodVayne

    BloodVayne Well-Known Member

    True, but justice =/= retribution. Justice is a subjective moral concept i.e. "fairness" . Retribution is an "eye for an eye".
     
  11. gaynorvader

    gaynorvader Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I'm saying killing is never justified.
     
  12. mr. awesome

    mr. awesome Well-Known Member

    You didn't understand a single drop of my sarcasm, did you?
     
  13. awesomebros

    awesomebros Well-Known Member

    I think you're talking to the wrong guy. I never responded to your post.
     
  14. calvin_0

    calvin_0 Well-Known Member

    When the initial shot of anesthetic, the prisoner wont even know that they had died. so what so scary about lethal injection. its not like they give you the poison right away.

    electric chair, more scary because the person who receive it feel everything.

    we are talking about cold blooded murderer. death penalty is the only way to ensure they will never kill again. keeping them in prison will only let them back in the world, its a waste of money plus they can escape and kill again.

    people who said death penalty is inhuman, is because their wishful thinking like Peta who want all to let lion, tiger and other dangerous animal in the zoo to run free in the world. Plus murderer already sink below humanity, so they are not equal to me and you.
     
  15. gaynorvader

    gaynorvader Well-Known Member

    I think mutilation is a more fitting punishment than either captivity or death for a murderer.
     
  16. Blade5406

    Blade5406 Well-Known Member

    They should all be put in a state of coma.
     
  17. mr. awesome

    mr. awesome Well-Known Member

    Oh, sorry, thought you were responding... sorry


    Well, I'm not sure if I fully understand you, because how would you know you died (assuming there is no afterlife)? And I know that they don't immediately poison them, but like I said, many people who have died via lethal injections die due to the shear pain and shock of the painkilling shot, that is often unnecessarily given to the person twice.
     
  18. awesomebros

    awesomebros Well-Known Member

    What if we give them a lobotomy? If they mess the lobotomy up, we kill them.
     
  19. calvin_0

    calvin_0 Well-Known Member

    people may not know if they had die, but people know they are dying. anesthetic shot take that dying away.

    I highly doubt that the pain from the shot nor the shock or getting injection can kill a human. the needle arent big enough to do it. now if they use a needle at the size of the garden hose, the injection may able to put them into shock, but it still wont create enough pain to kill.

    in case you didnt know, in lethal injection, 1st the prisoner is given an anesthetic shot to put them to sleep for 1-2 minutes, then they are given a poison to paralyze thier neuro system (stoping the lung), then they give them another poison to create an heart attack.

    now if they take away the anesthetic shot, lethal injection may be more scary, just imagine the pain from heart attack, any sane person would take twice before killing.

    but the slower the dying, the more they suffer, the more the prisoner suffer, the more fear it create in other people mind, normal sane people wont want a slow and painful death, so they wont able to murder no matter how they wanted.
     
  20. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    bring back the guillotine