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Death penalty

Discussion in 'Debates' started by atmizi69, Apr 19, 2009.

  1. Arcwolf09

    Arcwolf09 Guest

    So a child knows its wrong and they cant fight back so what its ok? Your not making sense. if you have no feeling thens whats the point of laws then? If you dont care then let everything go to hell. Your dumb. Not everyone is a fucking computer.
     
  2. mr. awesome

    mr. awesome Well-Known Member

    Please don't flame, this is a debate.
     
  3. Arcwolf09

    Arcwolf09 Guest

    im debating. he doesnt make sense. law cannot be kept without emotion
     
  4. tehuber1337

    tehuber1337 Well-Known Member

    Laws are founded on emotion (ie morals and ethics) but they are not sustained on emotion. That leads to all sorts of injustice. Have you seen those statues of Lady Justice wearing a blindfold? That's supposed to symbolise impartiality and objectivity.
     
  5. JordanioB

    JordanioB New Member

    Even though I'm Catholic, and I 'should' be against the death penalty, there are just some things that you don't do.

    It all depends on the severity of the crime committed. I think that if you kill someone in cold blood, NOT in self defense, You deserve to die.
     
  6. calvin_0

    calvin_0 Well-Known Member

    you mean child molester. not all pedophile are capable of kidnapping and raping like child molester.
     
  7. gaynorvader

    gaynorvader Well-Known Member

    Not sure who this quote is attributed to, nor am I sure that it's the exact quote, but here goes:
    Not even remotely what I said.
    Just a quick FYI, as I'm definitely beginning to come across as an arrogant, pretentious pratt now (probably true to at least some extent), but telling someone "You're dumb" and saying that they don't make sense, is not debating. You're supposed to engage with people's views, not dismiss them or bash them without counterpoints.
     
  8. tehuber1337

    tehuber1337 Well-Known Member

    Well, for the base laws such as those prohibiting murder/theft/etc, sure. Those regarding issues such as gay marriage or abortion are another matter.
     
  9. gaynorvader

    gaynorvader Well-Known Member

    Indeed, and I disagree with these laws as they are developed based on emotion and are therefore silly. Of course gay marriage and abortion should be allowed, there's enough bloody humans in the world as is.
     
  10. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    In strictly behavioral contexts, the word "pedophilia" has been used to refer to child sexual abuse itself, also called "pedophilic behavior"
     
  11. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    by strict defintion a paedophile is someone who loves children. (paedo = child, phile = lover)

    I'm not sure about anti-gay laws being based on emotion, they're usually based on religion. anti-abortion could be either.
     
  12. tehuber1337

    tehuber1337 Well-Known Member

    Not like emotion isn't significant in religion or religious beliefs.
     
  13. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    I rarely see emotion, its just 'god/allah/yahweh/the flying spaghetti monster said do/don't do xyz and if you argue you're a heretic and you deserve to die in a hail of fire and brimstone'
     
  14. gaynorvader

    gaynorvader Well-Known Member

    Maybe it's just me, but I'd definitely label that as emotion.
     
  15. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    I'd label it as delusion, but maybe thats me.
     
  16. mr. awesome

    mr. awesome Well-Known Member

    So if an American killed Hitler while 2 million Jews were being killed, then the American claimed it was justice, you say that a deeper evil is being committed?
     
  17. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    He meant an innocent person.
     
  18. mr. awesome

    mr. awesome Well-Known Member

    Oh, well he should have clarified that.
     
  19. gaynorvader

    gaynorvader Well-Known Member

    Yes, there are many other options, they should have locked Hitler away and either tried to utilise his brains in the field of economics or sent him and studied him psychologically to see if they could identify what had led him down these avenues so that we could avoid them in the future.

    No I didn't though I did mean someone who was tried by a court, was in captivity and had been found guilty of the crime. Whether or not they were guilty has no bearing on the outcome.
     
  20. awesomebros

    awesomebros Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure if I understand this. They could be so much more useful if we locked them up in prison versus just killing them. I doubt that they can successfully escape from prison.

    Couldn't we strip them of a few rights like television and visiting time and turn prison into a hellhole where you're forced to work and have no means of entertainment ('cept masturbation, cause that's what they all do)?

    Killing them really has no advantages. I mean, sure they could have killed, raped, and tortured dozens of people, but killing them doesn't have many advantages.