Cloud or Tidus???

Doctor Eggman as well, Though only in the TV Show...

And yes, FF6 in my opinion is the best FF ever. Kefka stole the show

 

Kefka was a stupid clown

 

He ruled an army at least.

 

So do tons of video game bosses

 

Doesn't mean he was stupid. The makeup kills it though.

 

Don't try to get fucking technical with me. If i want to call him a stupid clown, i can without someone running out trying to prove how smart clown boy was

 

This is a debate, you didn't expand on why you don't like Kefka; grow up.

 

No, cloud vs. tidus is the debate, Kefka is a stupid clown, i can say that all i want without debating it

grow up

 

Tidus.

Kefka may be a stupid clown, but he is no doubt one of the greatest final fantasy villians of all time.

 

Nah, not really, he sucked, plus he built a shitty tower that i decided to say **** it and cheat to get through. Oh no, he poisoned a town people i don't give a crap about

 

Yeah, and look all silly

Already have.

He's certainly one of the most unstable. The motivation for his actions was pretty weak IMAO.

That's, that's... THAT'S INCREDI-BOBBLE

 

Not really, i don't look silly since it's my opinion, it would be different if this were a debate topic for Clownfka, but it's not, it's a debate topic for Tidus and cloud, so my opinions on a different character isn't debatable here.

Yeah. you've grown up so much that you're telling me to grow up because i don't want to debate about a fat clown.

Incredi-bobble, sorry but i don't understand what you mean.

 

Why are you all against Kefka? At least he has emotion, unlike *cough*Sephiroth*cough*

 

And why do you and everyone else act like he's the best boss ever, he's a shitty clown who laughs like an idiot, thats not emotion.

You want to talk about better bosses?

Sephiroth Kills one of your party Members, Kekfa kills a nameless town that a party member lives in
Exdeath from 5 also kills a party member, Kefka is shitty, fat clown who for some reason has a fan following.

 

He's not the best Boss ever, he's a good villain... Kefka is mad, and that's why many people love him.

Uhmmm...

Tidus has blitzballs and Cloud has Long swords...

I choose Tidus,

 

you have to compare the most well-known FF protagonist against the protagonist with the worst side job class?

 

yea Cloud was totally a shinra mako- infused soldier badass dont try to tell someone who beat the game 3 times that he wasnt a soldier. he was a memory of someone who was actually if you wanna get technical you dont have to play crisis core to know that..the only reason why any main final fantasy character's limit break/trance/etc.. looks cool is because of Omni-slash.. it set the bar for how cool they should be..


while Tidus or (titties as i like to call him) just made you want to play a mini-game instead

 

cloud wasn't in soldier.
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here is the story for people that dont seem to understand it:

Despite his bravado, Cloud is unable to make it into SOLDIER and becomes an ordinary Shinra infantryman. In this role he meets a first-class SOLDIER named Zack Fair in Modeoheim, and the two become friends after learning they are both "backwater experts." When he and Zack infiltrated a Mako Excavation Facility on the way to Modeoheim, they encountered Genesis and Professor Hollander. When Hollander attempted to escape, Cloud was briefly successful in capturing Hollander. However, Hollander managed to break free of Cloud's grip in the struggle. On June 28th, 0001, Cloud is ordered to protect Professor Rayleigh in Midgar from the insurgency organization AVALANCHE. Though he fails, both of their lives are saved by a Player Turk. Despite his failure Cloud shows off some impressive sword skills for just a normal human.

On September 22nd, 0002, Cloud later returns to Nibelheim, along with Zack and Sephiroth to investigate a damaged reactor in Mt. Nibel, and Tifa is to act as their guide. Ashamed of his failure to join SOLDIER, Cloud hides his identity from the townspeople, and especially Tifa, though he does reveal himself to his mother. When the expedition reaches the reactor, Sephiroth discovers Professor Hojo's failed experiments with Mako soldiers as well as where ShinRa had interred Jenova, which Sephiroth mistakenly believed was his mother.
Cloud impaled with Sephiroth's sword, shown from Last Order -Final Fantasy VII-.

Falling into madness, Sephiroth immerses himself in the writings of Professor Gast and discovers his own dark past. He comes out from the basement of the Shinra Mansion on December 1st and sets about destroying the village. Cloud witnessed his mother's death in the ensuing fire and rushed to the reactor to confront Sephiroth. There he found both Tifa unconscious from an attack from Sephiroth and Zack barely conscious after a furious and desperate struggle with Sephiroth. A grief-stricken Cloud picked up Zack's Buster Sword, catching Sephiroth off guard in the reactor core, and impaling him. Wounded, Sephiroth was left as Cloud went to care for Tifa, in some accounts also having an affectionate conversation with her. Sephiroth emerged from the reactor core, and when Cloud attacked again, Sephiroth stabbed him with the Masamune. Cloud summoned unknown strength, and used the katana as a lever to hurl Sephiroth into the Mako below, though the observing Turk, who did not see this, assumed Sephiroth jumped in of his own volition and reported back to ShinRa to this effect. Cloud collapsed immediately thereafter.

Cloud and Zack become test subjects of Professor Hojo when they are found afterward. Injecting them with Jenova's cells and exposing them to Mako, Hojo attempts to test his Jenova Reunion Theory and turns them into Sephiroth Clones. Four years later (December 19th, 0006), Zack broke out of his confinement and helped a comatose Cloud escape, giving him a SOLDIER uniform that was in Shinra manor to wear because his old clothes were soaked with mako. Due to the experiment, Cloud was in a weak and delirious state as he had reacted more strongly to the experiments than Zack, who was surprisingly not affected by the Mako experiments. However as they escaped, Zack speaks continuously to the unresponsive Cloud about his life and his plans for both of them to become mercenaries in Midgar after finding out that four years had passed since Hojo took them. Zack carries the comatose Cloud around, and though Cloud takes no part in the events, is present at Genesis Rhapsodos's defeat by Zack.
Cloud after his and Zack's final conversation.

After almost a year of running, they finally arrive outside of Midgar in September 0007. However, the Shinra forces that have been searching for them finally catch up. Zack fights back to defend both Cloud and himself against overwhelming numbers. In the end, after single-handedly and heroically massacring the majority of the thousands of Shinra soldiers present, Zack is gunned down by the last few remaining soldiers and Cloud is left for dead after being seen in his vegetative state. However, having witnessed the whole chaos, Cloud manages to crawl over to where Zack is mortally wounded. In his last few seconds, a blood-soaked Zack entrusts the Buster Sword to Cloud, and tells him that his legacy will live on inside Cloud, before finally dying. After some time Cloud, deeply distressed, scrambles to his feet, Buster Sword in hand, and begins trudging off towards Midgar. His final words to Zack were, "Good-night, Zack".

Shortly thereafter, in the Sector Seven Train Station, Cloud's shattered mind undergoes a radical transformation. Hojo's experiments, combined with his own weakened psyche, Jenova's mimicry abilities and the trauma of the events he has experienced, cause Cloud to impress Zack's memories, his ideal image of himself as well as Tifa's memories of him together to create an entirely new persona. What emerges in Cloud's mind is a reality in which he successfully joined SOLDIER and was Sephiroth's partner - Zack did not exist. Taking up Zack's plans (hinting that he may have been vaguely aware of what Zack was telling him), Cloud presents himself as a mercenary, believing himself a former First Class SOLDIER. Since the official SOLDIER process is similar to the experiments Hojo performed on him, Cloud possesses the same abilities as a SOLDIER does and his claim is accepted as true.

 

didn't read, too long

basically, cloud only thinks he's a SOLDIER cause he's high on mako. he could still kick tidus' girly ass though