I don't say that dog are lesser but it was to show that he has to obey to god. But you know thinking of it Dogs are lesser than humans
That's what your fail religion spouts?! All life is equal but Humans are better?! Sounds like communism!
from the dictionary killed To put to death. To deprive of life: The Black Death was a disease that killed millions. To destroy a vitally essential quality in: Too much garlic killed the taste of the meat. To cause to cease operating; turn off: killed the motor. To tire out completely; exhaust: "The trip to work, and the boredom and nervousness of jobs, kills men" (Jimmy Breslin). To hit (a ball) with great force. To hit (a ball) with such force as to make a return impossible, especially in a racquet game. To put an end to; extinguish: The rain killed our plans for a picnic. To destroy a vitally essential quality in: Too much garlic killed the taste of the meat. To cause to cease operating; turn off: killed the motor. To tire out completely; exhaust: "The trip to work, and the boredom and nervousness of jobs, kills men" (Jimmy Breslin). To hit (a ball) with great force. To hit (a ball) with such force as to make a return impossible, especially in a racquet game. To pass (time) in aimless activity: killed a few hours before the flight by sightseeing. To consume entirely; finish off: kill a bottle of brandy. Sports To prevent a hockey team on a power play from scoring during (a penalty). To cause extreme pain or discomfort to: My shoes are killing me. To mark for deletion; rule out: killed the story. To thwart passage of; veto: kill a congressional bill. Informal To overwhelm with hilarity, pleasure, or admiration: The outstanding finale killed the audience. Sports To hit (a ball) with great force. To hit (a ball) with such force as to make a return impossible, especially in a racquet game. v. intr. To cause death or extinction; be fatal. To commit murder. Informal To make such a strong impression as to overcome: dress to kill. n. The act of killing. An animal killed, especially in hunting. A person killed or to be killed: "Infantrymen . . . had seen too many kills suddenly get up and run away or shoot at them as they approached" (Nelson DeMille). An enemy aircraft, vessel, or missile that has been attacked and destroyed. Sports A kill shot. God 1. the one Supreme Being, the creator and ruler of the universe. 2. the Supreme Being considered with reference to a particular attribute: the God of Islam. 3. (lowercase) one of several deities, esp. a male deity, presiding over some portion of worldly affairs. 4. (often lowercase) a supreme being according to some particular conception: the god of mercy. 5. Christian Science. the Supreme Being, understood as Life, Truth, Love, Mind, Soul, Spirit, Principle. 6. (lowercase) an image of a deity; an idol. 7. (lowercase) any deified person or object. 8. (often lowercase) Gods, Theater. a. the upper balcony in a theater. b. the spectators in this part of the balcony. –verb (used with object) 9. (lowercase) to regard or treat as a god; deify; idolize. –interjection 10. (used to express disappointment, disbelief, weariness, frustration, annoyance, or the like): God, do we have to listen to this nonsense? ehehe..then can we say that life is NOT equal?...lol. I remembered this one discussion on theology regarding if animals have souls. My teacher said that they dont have souls, because they only have instincts. Then what diffrence is that to man?.
hmm didn't know god was part of a theatre, I knew that part as the dress circle (I think, long time since I was involved in theatre). Also, your teacher has evidently never been in the vicinity of a dying animal, because they wouldn't say that if they had.
yeah...probably. Everyday in our class he would tell a story about his days in the seminary... I did'nt argue about the point of the soul/instinct of animals. Because in the end teachers have a tendency to prevail. Specially if your not well acquainted with the doctrines of the church, and you cant shout your point. Its rude to raise your voice inside the class..
if god dont put his\her\its hand into everybody's business everyday because of "free will", thats mean god cant send me into hell because its my "free will" not to belive in him\her\it.
isnt that just blaming others for your own "decisions"? its like saying "I blame my parents for letting me become a failure".
nope its more like a Vegan parent letting thier child to choose thier own food for dinner later change it because it have other thing then vagetables. IF god doesnt mind other business because of "Free Will" then he cant send other people who use thiers "Free Will" not to belive in him to hell because by doing that he took the "Free Will" from people and voiding the concept of "Free Will" by defualt.
It's called a false choice; acting as if someone has a choice about something and then ignoring their choice in favour of a predetermined outcome. For example, in the early days of the car, Ford supposidly sold their model T in 'any colour you like so long as it's black'
So basically, you want to be forced into "goodness" by God?. Isn't that the same as asking to be someones bit**?... **sorry..cant help myself. ;D its not everyday i get to use it. ;D ;D
i'm just saying If god is real or who he claim he is, there is no point for god to let other people suffer and do nothing about it.
What exactly do we mean by "other people suffer"?. When other people are left alone to "suffer" isn't that just letting them take responsibility for their actions?. When a person commits a crime, do we ignore them and just let them free, or do we persecute them for doing so? Although im also thinking about the suffering of the "innocent" people that are involved due to the stupidity of others. So...what exactly are we talking about?
i don't know..if you were to look at it in a perspective of a higher organism. Isn't it just the same as cockfighting, or predators hunting for food. Have you ever played "Black and White"? its a game where you play god. very fun, specially when you smash people or fry them with natural causes and such.
nope, because war and crime isnt cause by survival instinct, and since diseases are consider natural couses, then mean if god are real he control it and since he like to shower us with diseases, that mean he enjoy seeing people suffer (same can be say with misfortune) and the "Black and White" game agree with me that god enjoy seeing other people suffer, so that effectively make him what you beliver calls, a demon.
Well First...lets read a story by Karel Capek. The Last Judgment by Karel Čapek The notorious multiple-killer Kugler, pursued by several warrants and a whole army of policemen and detectives, swore that he’d never be taken. He wasn’t either - at least not alive. The last of his nine murderous deeds was shooting a policeman who tried to arrest him. The policeman indeed died, but not before putting a total of seven bullets into Kugler. Of these seven, three were fatal. Kugler’s death came so quickly that he felt no pain. And so it seemed Kugler had escaped earthly justice. When his soul left his body, it should have been surprised at the sight of the next world - a world beyond space, grey, and infinitely desolate - but it wasn’t. A man who has been jailed on two continents looks upon the next life merely as new surroundings. Kugler expected to struggle through, equipped only with a bit of courage, as he had in the last world. At length the inevitable Last Judgment got around to Kugler. The judges were old and worthy councilors with austere, bored faces. Kugler complied with the usual tedious formalities: Ferdinand Kugler, unemployed, born on such and such a date, died… at this point it was shown Kugler didn’t know the date of his own death. Immediately he realized this was a damaging omission in the eyes of the judges; his spirit of helpfulness faded. “Do you plead guilty or not guilty?†asked the presiding judge. “Not guilty,†said Kugler obdurately. “Bring in the first witness,†the judge sighed. Opposite Kugler appeared an extraordinary gentleman, stately, bearded, and clothed in a blue robe strewn with golden stars. At his entrance, the judges arose. Even Kugler stood up, reluctant but fascinated. Only when the old gentleman took a seat did the judges again sit down. “Witness,†began the presiding judge, “omniscient God, this court has summoned you in order to hear your testimony in the case against Kugler, Ferdinand. As you are the supreme truth, you need not take the oath. In the interest of the proceedings, however, we ask you to keep to the subject at hand rather than branch out into particulars - unless they have a bearing on this case.†“And you, Kugler, don’t interrupt the witness. He knows everything, so there’s no use denying anything.†“And now, witness, if you would please begin.†God, the witness, coughed lightly and began: “Yes. Kugler, Ferdinand. Ferdinand Kugler, son of a factory worker, was a bad, unmanageable child from his earliest days. He loved his mother dearly, but was unable to show it, this made him unruly and defiant. Young man, you irked everyone! Do you remember how you bit your father on the thumb when he tried to spank you? You had stolen a rose from the notary’s garden.†“The rose was for Irma, the tax collector’s daughter,†Kugler said. “I know,†said God. “Irma was seven years old at that time. Did you ever hear what happened to her?†“No, I didn’t.†“She married Oscar, the son of the factory owner. But she contracted a venereal disease from him and died of a miscarriage. You remember Rudy Zaruba?†“What happened to him?†“Why, he joined the navy and died accidentally in Bombay. You two were the worst boys in the whole town. Kugler, Ferdinand, was a thief before his tenth year and an inveterate liar. He kept bad company, too: old Gribble, for instance, a drunkard and an idler, living on handouts. Nevertheless, Kugler shared many of his own meals with Gribble.†The presiding judge motioned with his hand, as if much of this was perhaps unnecessary, but Kugler himself asked hesitantly, “And… what happened to his daughter?†“What’s she doing right now?†“This very minute she’s buying thread at Wolfe’s. Do you remember that shop? Once, when you were six years old, you bought a colored glass marble there. On that very same day you lost it and never, never found it. Do you remember how you cried with rage?†“Whatever happened to it?†Kugler asked eagerly. “Well, it rolled into the drain and under the gutterspout. Right now it’s still there, after thirty years. Right now it’s raining on earth and your marble is shivering in the gush of cold water.†Kugler bent his head, overcome by this revelation. But the presiding judge fitted his spectacles back on his nose, and said mildly, “Witness, we are obliged to get on with the case. Has the accused committed murder?†“He murdered nine people. The first one he killed in a brawl, and it was during his prison term for his crime that he became completely corrupted. The second victim was his unfaithful sweetheart. For that he was sentenced to death, but he escaped. The third was an old man whom he robbed. The fourth was a night watchman.†“Then he died?†Kugler asked. “He died after three days in terrible pain,†God said. “And he left six children behind him. The fifth and sixth victims were an old married couple. He killed them with an axe and found only sixteen dollars, although they had twenty thousand hidden away.†Kugler jumped up. “Where?†“In the straw mattress,†God said. “In a linen sack inside the mattress. That’s where they hid all the money they acquired from greed and penny-pinching. The seventh man he killed in America, a countryman of his, a bewildered, friendless immigrant.†“So it was in the mattress,†whispered Kugler in amazement. “Yes,†continued God. “The eighth man was merely a passerby who happened to be in Kugler’s way when Kugler was trying to outrun the police. At that time Kugler had periostitis and was delirious from the pain. Young man, you were suffering terribly. The ninth and last was the policeman who killed Kugler exactly when Kugler shot him.†“And why did the accused commit murder?†asked the presiding judge. “For the same reasons others have,†answered God. “Out of anger or desire for money, both deliberately and accidentally-some with pleasure, others from necessity. However, he was generous and often helpful. He was kind to women, gentle with animals, and kept his word. Am I to mention his good deeds?†“For the same reasons others have,†answered God. “Out of anger or desire for money, both deliberately and accidentally - some with pleasure, others from necessity. However, he was generous and often helpful. He was kind to women, gentle with animals, and kept his word. Am I to mention his good deeds?†“Thank you,†said the presiding judge, “but it isn’t necessary. Does the accused have anything to say in his own defense?†“No,†Kugler replied with honest indifference. “The judges of this court will now take this matter under advisement,†declared the presiding judge, and the three of them withdrew. Only God and Kugler remained in the courtroom. “Who are they?†asked Kugler, indicating with his head the men who just left. “People like you,†answered God. “They were judges on earth, so they’re judges here as well.†Kugler nibbled his fingertips. “I expected… I mean, I never really thought about it. But I figured you would judge since…†“Since I’m God,†finished the stately gentleman. “But that’s just it, don’t you see? Because I know everything, I can’t possibly judge. That wouldn’t do at all. By the way, do you know who turned you in this time?†“No, I don’t,†said Kugler, surprised. “Lucky, the waitress. She did it out of jealousy.†“Excuse me,†Kugler ventured, “but you forgot about that good-for-nothing Teddy I shot in Chicago.†“Not at all,†God said. “He recovered and is alive this very minute. I know he’s an informer, but otherwise he’s a very good man and terribly fond of children. You shouldn’t think of any person as being completely worthless.†“But I still don’t understand why you aren’t the judge,†Kugler said thoughtfully. “But why are they judging… the same people who were judges on earth?†“Because man belongs to man. As you see, I’m only the witness. But the verdict is determined by man, even in heaven. Believe me, Kugler, this is the way it should be. Man isn’t worthy of divine judgment. He deserves to be judged only by other men.†At that moment, the three returned from their deliberation. In heavy tones the presiding judge announced, “For repeated crimes of first - degree murder, manslaughter, robbery, disrespect for the law, illegally carrying weapons, and for the theft of a rose; Kugler, Ferdinand, is sentenced to lifelong punishment in hell. “Next case please: Torrance, Frank.†“Is the accused present in court?†--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If God were to intervene in every conflict of human history, wouldn't that bound his existence to the meager life of human beings?. Now if we assume, that GOD has a persona like any other being, and he DOES HELP the people in their suffering, lets say God unleashes miracle rains that can cure any diseases; AIDS, Cancer, Diabetes, Hypertension, and uber rare disease that i do not know anything about. BUT at the cost of freedom, freewil, or creativity. If God were to directly intervene in our lives, that would give him the "RIGHT" to demand the same. You are to do and be good at all times. No pre-marital sex, no drugs, obey the 10 commandments, no scientific explanation about creation or any other that will violate the benevolence of God. If you cannot follow the rules, you die. After all God created life, whats the value of one life?. With a flick of a finger he can do with you as he so wishes. Oh....and in case you don't know, here's a link to the divine interventions of God. The great flood from the story of Noah and the Arc isn't included there, so can just add it up.
How can you kill something that doesnt exist,for a start in the bible their is more than one god!!!!!.No one tells you that.
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