well, if, as you say, God exists out of time, then death would not apply. Death is a construct by mortal beings like you and I, who happen to experience a "beginning" and an "end" of existence. A crude analogy would be, "Can a plant's head be chopped off?" This question only applies to an existence that has the property of "head" in the first place. We experience death as an "end of time," so as God is outside the property of "time" he cannot experience it's end. As to the idea of God, assuming such a thing actually exists, he shares nothing in common with us, and therefore would be indescribable. He is not "all-powerful" because power, in this use, is a construct we invented to refer to our ability to overcome. The one with more power overcomes the other. Christians, and all theists alike, use these kind of descriptions for one of two reasons. One, they don't know what they are talking about. All too common, unfortunately. The other is that these are the only words we can use to describe something capable of manifesting the existence of all things, which is something we have no basis to understand. This probably makes no sense to anyone, but I hope that it does. Lemme hear some feedback! Post Merge: [time]1243925396[/time] but antimatter isn't "nothing." it isn't, as it's name implies, the absence of matter. it is, in fact, quite real, and would be available for sensory analysis if we could handle it. It has the same properties as matter.
antimatter is the opposite of matter, and thus to the human definition of matter being that which is tangible, antimatter is akin to nothing because it cannot be handled or its presence detected by human senses.
Yeah, if a God really exists then there's no reason why he can't be killed. Sure you can say that death is merely a human expression like time and space... But that doesn't mean such things don't actually exist. A series of books I really love, called His Dark Materials, actually asks the question - how do you kill a God? The answer, while fictional at best, is to not "kill" him in the traditional sense of "stick a fork in him, he's done" - but to cancel him out. Dark matter, as has been discussed before in this thread, will do the trick.
but for dark matter to cancel "God" out, he would have to be made of matter. and as for anti-matter, the very fact that we can verify it's existence makes it not "nothing". We cannot see or handle energy, but we infer it's presence through it's effects. i've personally always likened the two.
if god cant be killed then he is not onipotent wich makes him not god but,IF god dies then he is not eternal wich makes him not god. so no matter what happens,i mean, no matter if god is "kill-able" or not,he is not god
I never considered the "killing" of a god, in the literal sense. I've always thought, the way to kill a god, is through mass atheism. Seeing as how gods can neither be proven nor dis-proven beyond the point of reasonable doubt, the only realm in which they surely dwell, is in our minds, or so to say. So, by eliminating theism, you are essentially, killing god.
You confuse me... If God can't be killed, then he is not omnipotent. But if he can be killed, he isn't immortal. The second part, I understand - but the first statement makes no sense whatsoever to me.
Thor was a god, yet Jorgmundir killed him. Norse Mythology tells of an epic battle between Thor, son of Odin, and the Midgard Serpent, Jorgmundir. Although Thor slew Jorgmundir; he was bitten by the serpent, and after the battle, succumbed to the venom in Jorgmundir's bite.
Well Manny and Loony are talking about two different types of gods i'm guessing. Loony is talking about a god from mythology and Manny i'm pretty sure is talking about a Christian or religious god. So I guess it depends...
