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Britain's 2010 Elections

Discussion in 'General News' started by Adnan1992, Apr 17, 2010.

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  1. MessoMesso

    MessoMesso Well-Known Member

    Oh damn. I've got a homophobe raydar too XD
     
    MessoMesso, Apr 18, 2010
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  2. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    if we did this exact same thing this country wouldnt be like it is

    like i said earlier, the bnp isnt right in everyway but they have the balls to tell the truth about the real problems
    the bnp isnt right for the country but like i said earlier, if they start taking big votes other parties will change their policies to suit
     
    msg2009, Apr 18, 2010
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  3. MessoMesso

    MessoMesso Well-Known Member

    I don't recall the whole "change of policies" thing...

    Can't you just pester your local politicians to fix the damn country instead of voting for a racist party?
     
    MessoMesso, Apr 18, 2010
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  4. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    bnp are never gonna get in im not stupid
    what im trying to do is make the government aware that the real problems are just been covered up by correctness
    the countrys full, theres no jobs etc this has to stop
    if they just change the immigration laws then they will take a massive chunk of bnp voters
     
    msg2009, Apr 18, 2010
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  5. kyrodon

    kyrodon Guest

    Without immigrants half the country would cease to be able to run itself.
     
    kyrodon, Apr 18, 2010
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  6. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    not all immigrants should be here just the ones that are contributing.
    australias system works thats what we should do
    the only way this will come about is if people vote for it
     
    msg2009, Apr 18, 2010
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  7. kyrodon

    kyrodon Guest

    but why vote for it, it's stupid.
     
    kyrodon, Apr 18, 2010
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  8. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    because if we dont vote then more and more immigrants are gonna come in and theres no jobs so they are gonna be on benefits which is payed for by the taxpayers and that money could be spent on education or hospitals or police or just something more useful
    just make the government aware that it has to stop, that is why im voting bnp

    best case scenario - lib dems adopt australian immigration laws, take bnp's voters and get in power.

    worst case - nothing changes
     
    msg2009, Apr 18, 2010
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  9. kyrodon

    kyrodon Guest

    Don't you mean worst case: BNP gets charge of uk.
    Best case: conservatives adopt some minor immigration laws.
     
    kyrodon, Apr 18, 2010
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  10. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    bnp are never gonna get in, thats just plain and simple.

    how are we going to get conservatives to change immigration laws?
    by letting them know by voting for it

    if people just vote conservatives nothing will change, make them change!
     
    msg2009, Apr 18, 2010
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  11. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    bullshit. Without immigrants we wouldn't have 3 million+ unemployed. it is ILLEGAL to hire a white male when a woman or an ethnic applies for the same job. thats just how far this 'diversity' bullshit has gone. all three major parties have exactly the same policies; the same nation wrecking ones that margret thatcher started in the 80s. Labour took them even further than she ever dared to. Remember that the british once had an empire covering most of the world, we didn't need immigrants to run that. regardless, the BNP have no problem with settled, integrated immigrants. it is only those who shouldn't be here and who refuse to integrate that they want out.

    our country no longer has soverign right to rule itself, all our laws are made by unelected bureaucrats in Brussels. Cameron's promises of getting some of our rights back are smoke and mirrors, just like his 'cast iron guarantee' of a referendum. The Lisbon treaty does not allow it, you either stay in the EU and do exactly as Brussels tells you, or you leave the EU. There is no middle ground. It's telling that our europe minister admitted that she never read the treaty before signing it.

    Up until recently the government denied the existance of a native british race, meaning we were not protected by the UN charter of indigneous peoples, which labour refused to sign. it was only during the court case against the BNP (which set a *VERY* dangerous legal precedent) that the government finally admitted that there is a native british race. Jack straw is quoted as saying 'the english are a race not worth saving', which is extremely offensive to all those people who had relatives die in the world wars to defend our freedom, while his own father was rotting in jail for being a coward and refusing to fight. The dangerous precedent that was set allows the government to dictate the policies of other parties.

    UKIP are a smoke and mirrors party, they are not euro-skeptic as they try to portray. For example, their ex-leader (who stood down to concentrate on parlimentary campaigning) bragged about 'trousering' (his word) over £2 million in expenses from the taxpayers by being in the EU parliament. their other members attend sufficient debates to get paid their attendance allowance and then walk out of the chamber. Recently a bill was passed by just 5 votes because ukip had just walked out after getting their attendance allowance for the day. That bill allows the EU to channel billions more from EU taxpayers (including the british) into one of their black holes. If UKIP had any interest in protecting british interests they would not have walked out, and several other euroskeptic MEPs expressed disgust at their behaviour following the narrow victory. They also have no other policies bar ones they stole from the BNP.

    As nex said, this is probably going to be a hung parliament, but even so it is the best chance the 'small parties' and independents have had for a long time, and possibly will ever have. Labour and tories have exactly the same policies, polls suggest people don't trust cameron and brown has proven repeatedly he's not to be trusted. If the televised debate is anything to go by the libdems have no policies whatsoever. This is the election of the fringe parties and the independents.

    On the plus side, a hung parliament would hopefully limit the damage the government can cause.
     
    Loonylion, Apr 18, 2010
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  12. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    :)
    i realise i never put up the best argument but i have had no sleep.
     
    msg2009, Apr 18, 2010
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  13. fdgsaoralex

    fdgsaoralex Well-Known Member

    come on seriously... don't bring that SHIT around here, you're worried about unemployment and immigration but seem to forget that we've just been ain a recession and are only just recovering...

    and the bnp have a shit immigration policy, they just don't want to let anyone in... you mention the austrailian immigration policy as being similar but they have a checklist like policy where if you meet the criteria then you can go and work there
     
    fdgsaoralex, Apr 18, 2010
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  14. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    We are NOT recovering from the recession, that is the whole problem. labours mismanagement of our economy means we're a long way from recovery. We were one of the worst affected countries, and if we hadn't had economic idiots in power for the last 13 years we could have been one of the least affected.

    As for your definition of 'shit immigration policies' the current government has NO immigration policy, it is a complete free for all. There is a limit to how many people the resources of this country can support, and that limit was passed years ago. the country is collapsing because of the unsustainable population, we have far more people than the land can support. Of course the BNP want a halt to immigration, because the country is FULL UP. it CANNOT SUPPORT ANY MORE PEOPLE. go and read about sustainability before talking shit.
     
    Loonylion, Apr 18, 2010
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  15. Adnan1992

    Adnan1992 Well-Known Member

    wow some interesting discussions going on. I've tried to do what Loonylion is saying about looking at immigration laws but honestly it really seems to fly over my head :/ I would have thought that immigration into the country would be limited only to good reason i.e. work, education, family etc. What exactly are you saying immigration is like Loonylion?

    I did a bit of research into a hung political system- and the idea seems to appeal to me... but isn't everyone saying that a hung party is bad? (Not sure why)

    and about the BNP- i can see why proper english people are angry about. Hell i would be angry myself if Bangladesh was persecuting and attacking Bangladeshi people like fdgsa and loonylion is saying. However even though the BNP has policies to preserve english heritage (and thats a great thing no doubt) i just can't take a party that does not show equality to other races seriously! I mean come on- policies against cross gender relationship? Jesus...it seems to me as if they are saying we are all a different species and the offspring of differing races are some sort of mutants. Furthermore the way that they allow only white Caucasians are allowed to join (as explained by nex26) is outright racist. I can sympathize with the frustration of proper English people like msghomemaintenance... but really... do BNP supporters like you really share it's racist ideals?
     
    Adnan1992, Apr 18, 2010
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  16. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    no im not racist in the slightest, I honestly have nothing against any race or religion and not so long ago it was on the news that BNP are accepting black members.
    as loonylion said the BNP have no problem with settled, integrated immigrants. it is only those who shouldn't be here and who refuse to integrate that they want out.
     
    msg2009, Apr 18, 2010
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  17. Adnan1992

    Adnan1992 Well-Known Member

    could you perhaps tell me more about what you mean by "intergrate"
     
    Adnan1992, Apr 18, 2010
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  18. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    working and contributing to society
     
    msg2009, Apr 18, 2010
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  19. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    accepting british culture and relgion and not ramming their own down everyone's throats. It's fine to be a sikh, hindu or whatever, so long as you accept that this country is primarily christian and the laws reflect that. demanding that the law be changed to suit your religion/culture is not integration. Similarly, you're allowed to maintain your own culture so long as its not to the detriment of the british culture.
     
    Loonylion, Apr 18, 2010
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  20. Adnan1992

    Adnan1992 Well-Known Member

    wait hold up. What is the difference between english culture and British culture.

    And don't you define yourself as british nationality by being a british citizen and of X ethnicity by your country of origin? or are there other things i.e. cultural that define you as british?
     
    Adnan1992, Apr 18, 2010
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