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An eye for an eye?

Discussion in 'Debates' started by msg2009, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    This got me thinking: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100820/twl-judge-asks-doctors-to-damage-crimina-3fd0ae9.html
    So do you think it should be an eye for an eye?
    Obviously some people deserve it but some 1st time offenders will never do it again, everyone makes mistakes.
    Im all for it for repeat offenders or for serious crimes, it only takes a few puplic cases and its more powerful as a deterrent than an actual punishment.
     
  2. awesomebros

    awesomebros Well-Known Member

    Aren't there better solutions? Such as forcing the criminal to be a servant for the families?

    Sounds kind of like an immature action to me.
     
  3. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    But if you knew it would happen to you, would you stab someone in the back with a cleaver?
    Thats what i mean by a deterrant, I know for certain I wouldn't break any laws or even take the slightest risk over it no matter how mad/upset I got.
     
  4. usernameladiesman217

    usernameladiesman217 Well-Known Member

    An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.

    cant remember where I saw it nor do I actually give a fuck about it I just felt like saying some wise shit.
     
  5. awesomebros

    awesomebros Well-Known Member

    But in this case, they were legally allowed to disable the criminal.
     
  6. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    Yes and will it happen again? well, yeah....on rare occasions, but think of it as a long term benefit to society.
    All them people that would have done a crime but though better of it.
     
  7. Oteupaiecona

    Oteupaiecona Well-Known Member

    Says it all right there. ::)
    No, it's not.
    When people commit crimes like this, they are usually to blinded by anger or other type of emotion to think about what punishment they will get.
    Look at the death penalty, for example.
    It's no better deterrent then a life sentence.
    Agreed.
    What if you knew you would get locked up for life, or even for a good amount of years?
    Would you still do it?
    Like i said, in the heat of the moment, i doubt the aggressor is considering what the penalty for his crime will be.
    That does not invalidate what he said.
    Just because they call a barbaric and ancient book, with outdated morals and values, law, doesn't necessarily make it right.
    IMO, the people who would actually think about this type of punishment and would therefore not commit the crime are the same exact people who would otherwise think of the punishment of imprisonment or any other punishment.
    So, what i'm trying to say is, i don't believe that stooping to the criminal's level will make a better deterrent.
     
  8. Natewlie

    Natewlie A bag of tricks

    It is, in fact. It's more than that, it's barbaric.
     
  9. allkratos

    allkratos Well-Known Member

    The victim's life is ruined, so I think it is somehow justified to punish the criminal the same way as well.
    Still, it's barbaric and I do think that the assault wasn't intended to paralyze the victim in the first place. Hell, it was even a fight.

    This is not as barbaric as stoning and beheading of adulterers though. That one is completely selfish of the authority and unreasonable. Why do you want to kill somebody who indulge in extramarital sex?
    It's not like it causes death and did those who are involved kill anyone?
     
  10. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    The thing is, I do think about my actions and always have done.
    I wasn't scared I knew nothing would happen, the most I ever got was a suspended sentance.
     
  11. usernameladiesman217

    usernameladiesman217 Well-Known Member

    Wait wait. So they take out his eye and send him on his way?
    Hmm, doesn't seem that fair to me. The loss of an eye will effect you till the day you die.
    After 5 years of jail time (for example) you pretty much have to rebuild your life but atleast you can get a job.
    Who's gonna hire a blind man?
    I don't know how to feel about it, maybe if it were a more severe crime that was intentional. But I can't say I agree with their actions.
     
  12. dills2

    dills2 Well-Known Member

    an eye for an eye and you end up with two people who cant see that good
     
  13. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    I see situations where it works, such as castrating serial rapists and paedophiles, but in general its not a good idea.
     
  14. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    its easier to get a job if you're disabled than if you have a criminal record.
     
  15. usernameladiesman217

    usernameladiesman217 Well-Known Member

    Ahh that is true. Didn't think about that.
     
  16. allkratos

    allkratos Well-Known Member

    A disabled person are usually morally "cleaner".
    Have you ever heard of a blind rapist? Seriously dude.
     
  17. Oteupaiecona

    Oteupaiecona Well-Known Member

    Blind Rapist
     
  18. allkratos

    allkratos Well-Known Member

    LOL didn't expect that. Nice.
    Still, its rare.
     
  19. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    Its not literally an eye in this case, did you read the link?
    He put someone in a wheelchair by severing his spinal cord with a cleaver so his family want the same for him.
     
  20. usernameladiesman217

    usernameladiesman217 Well-Known Member

    *facepalm myself* I see it now lol.
    Post Merge: [time]1282461654[/time]
    Ahh I read it. Well the fact that he only got 14 months for paralyzing someone is shocking. A greater punishment is deserved though damaging his spinal cord might be a bit overkill, albeit fair I guess...

    Who know's it may "scare" off other criminals.