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Agree with Human Cloning?

Discussion in 'Debates' started by jakenero10, Dec 21, 2008.

  1. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    Incorrect. Cloning is the use of pre-existing DNA to produce a fetus of the creature that supplied the DNA. The fetus develops into a physically exact clone of the donor creature
     
  2. TirithRR

    TirithRR Well-Known Member

    Alot of the anti-cloning movement spreads from a lack of knowledge of what cloning is.

    Yes, you would be creating a genetic copy of a person, but you wouldn't be creating an exact copy of that person, no more than twins are exact copies of each other. They are two distinct individuals, each with their own personality and life. It's not something used to revive the dead or provide a new host for your own consciousness.

    It would be wrong to create a full human just to use for spare parts. But would it be wrong for a woman to create a child from her own DNA without the use of a male? I don't see a problem with that. Maybe the woman doesn't want to have to rely on a person to donate sperm to her in order for her to have a kid. In a future where cloning has been worked out to the level of modern in vitro fertilization I don't see any problem with it being done.
     
  3. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    I said physically exact. that excludes environmental factors and personality.
     
  4. TirithRR

    TirithRR Well-Known Member

    I didn't mean it as a reply to you though. More specifically to the people saying people want to use this to revive the dead.
     
  5. kamuikurou

    kamuikurou Well-Known Member

    It's experience and memories that built a person to the way he/she now.

    I do believe in the existence of 'souls' (that created in the moment the egg cell meets the sperm cell) so I reject human cloning, whatever its purpose.

    Religions aside, I really don't want cloning technology to be developed. I can't imagine how many lifes it'll take to perfect the technology. Well, if it was developed somehow, it should be under a really really strict law. Really strict one so that it only used if they can fully respect the cloned being as another human, equally. Organ harvest? Of course not.
     
  6. kukuru

    kukuru Well-Known Member

    i agree to that statement.
    Even cloned being have to be treated like a normal being.

    and organ harvest...
    sounds very cruel...
     
  7. nex26

    nex26 Well-Known Member

    No need for organ harvesting... thats what stem cells are for.
     
  8. Apollooo

    Apollooo Well-Known Member

    agreed
     
  9. kukuru

    kukuru Well-Known Member

    oh

    thats new to me
     
  10. kamuikurou

    kamuikurou Well-Known Member

    I don't even agree with stem cells, they use embryos that should have been babies.

    Oh, nevermind, after some googling, it seems they have been developing a new stem cell technology that won't harm the embryo.
    http://www.wired.com/medtech/stemcells/news/2008/01/blastocyst_biopsy
    It's fine then.
     
  11. Mikiie

    Mikiie Well-Known Member

    I just finished this topic in science and I think Cloning=WIN
    It can help with diseases and transplants and the such.
    Pfft who needs morals.
     
  12. kukuru

    kukuru Well-Known Member

    Everyone needs moral...

    else no peaceful...
     
  13. Patton

    Patton Guest

    First off, I disagree with cloning.

    Next, there are plenty people in the world already.

    Third, if you really want a "clone", go find a nice girl, have sex with her. Job done.

    Fourth, if you cannot have kids, go with artificial insemination.
     
  14. calvin_0

    calvin_0 Well-Known Member

    Clone contain the complete blue print of the original, fetus created by union contain only part of the blue print from thier original parent.

    Steam Cell only repair damaged organ, it cant revive a dead organ....
     
  15. ggrroohh

    ggrroohh Well-Known Member

    Clone a full being?NO thanks
    Clone a body part?YES please
    Maybe one day we can just clone the parts we want (Heart,Brain,whatever) without the body.
    Think Brains in Glass Containers,like in Busou Renkin.
     
  16. gaynorvader

    gaynorvader Well-Known Member

    I believe cloning is an avenue we need to pursue, as it could lead to saving lives. I agree with ggrroohh when he said no to cloning a whole body, but yes to an organ, etc. If we need to clone whole bodies to learn how to clone individual parts, then I think it should be done as the benefits vastly outweigh any perceived downsides.
     
  17. redoperator

    redoperator Well-Known Member

    actual brain computers i would like to see
     
  18. jigsawj

    jigsawj Active Member

    No its wrong they all need to be brought up by birth. Because every one needs love from the mums and dads.
     
  19. gaynorvader

    gaynorvader Well-Known Member

    There's no reason why a clone cannot have as normal a childhood as any orphan.
     
  20. redoperator

    redoperator Well-Known Member

    a clone is nothing more than a replication of dna... WE are replications of dna, whats stopping artificially created beings from having a natural life?

    nothing, just people like you (jigsawj)saying that they are not normal. if i had a clone i would be his brother, he wouldn't be exactly like me, he would have different tastes depending on the time he has out in the world... look at identical twins, they're practically the same, technically clones, but they share differences. so don't bring religion into science, it ain't gonna fly.