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Terrorist: Do they have Human Rights?

Discussion in 'Debates' started by damanali, Jul 30, 2009.

  1. damanali

    damanali Well-Known Member

    Well, this is bugging me for quite some time now :-\
    I know everybody has human rights, rapist, murderer, thieves, politicians... but i just cant figure if terrorist have human rights...

    Do they have human rights?
     
  2. mds64

    mds64 Well-Known Member

    I think they for-go it the second they decided to intentionally cause harm to other human beings...

    Sure-murderers get rights, though I think that is wrong...

    Terrorist-even less-and thankfully they (to me) seem to target countries that give death penalties...


    Must be scary though-hear about that poor guy...s survivor from the jakarta bombing?

    "I stared death in the face..."

    Yeah he sure did-to be looking at a guy about to blow-all he saw was a flash...miracle he survived...



    Any who-I don't think they deserve it-these guys hate the other world views-so I think they deserve what they dish out.
     
  3. tehuber1337

    tehuber1337 Well-Known Member

    Terrorists are just as entitled to the right to die as the rest of us.
     
  4. mds64

    mds64 Well-Known Member

    ...but as the poster said, do human rights OTHER than death apply?

    Now I'm asking in a legal sence-not opinion based-do they get a trial-a hearing-jail terms-or just straight death?
     
  5. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    the situation we have in the UK is that the rights of the criminal are put above the rights of the victim, therefore prisons are like holiday camps and there is absolutely no reason for them not to re-offend, because prison is an easy, comfortable life. Sure, you can't leave, but you have TV and playstations, computers, 3 meals a day etc. They can't be punished because it would breach their human rights (thank the EU for such a dumb law), and the right of the victim to not be a victim is completely ignored. In my view, those who break the law should forgo the majority of their rights, (or all of them, bar the basics, eg right to life, right to food and right to shelter, for serious crimes).
     
  6. damanali

    damanali Well-Known Member

    um, loony, how about the right no to be harmed, like torture? and I'm so curious, for example you committed a crime, should your rights be waived before final sentencing?
     
  7. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    not before sentencing. but the sentence should be passed without regard to rights and the punishment served without regard to rights beyond the basic ones.
     
  8. mds64

    mds64 Well-Known Member

    SAME HERE!


    But far shorter sentances...think 5 years...or even just ciommunity service, for killing someone, given certain rules are broken as well (cyclyist ran over an pensionor-he got a fine for killing that man if I remember correctly...pussy goverment-I think he broke a few other road rules to get pushed into the fine)
     
  9. asdzxc123789

    asdzxc123789 Well-Known Member

    No.
    I can explain this in one giant paragraph ,but I am not gonna otherwise some-one (blinks @ databank) needs an explanation.
     
  10. dhanash

    dhanash Well-Known Member

    every HUMAN have HUMAN rights...... thats all
     
  11. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    Yes, and those rights include the right not to be a victim.
     
  12. dhanash

    dhanash Well-Known Member

    yep, no one should be able to say whether someone have human rights, they should all just name it earth rights lol
     
  13. rayds

    rayds Member

    @damanali why do you think terrorist have or not have human rights in the first place. Is terrorist action a special crime to you?

    Terrorist crime is just the same like other crime. So, in the short answer terrorist do have human rights. Heck, as dhanash said that every HUMAN have HUMAN rights that is true.

    My country's law of terrorist usually impose a death penalty to those terrorist.
    The thing happen quite often in my country. Those Bali, international hotels, and the last Jakarta bombing happened in my country; Indonesia is a lively country isn't it? The terrorists were imposed death penalties. Were those death penalties violating human rights? I doubt those were. Every human do have human rights, whatever the punishment being imposed to them they have passed the court that proceeded according to their rights. Sure this could bring a different debate, but my point is human do have human rights whatever they have done. And next they could be processed according to local law when they are violating others rights.
     
  14. dhanash

    dhanash Well-Known Member

    discrimination....... thats all
     
  15. damanali

    damanali Well-Known Member

    I asked this question because of a news here in our country. a Fil-am activist was, according to her, tortured by our military. The military said she was a member of the NPA, which is a, according to the US and EU, is a terrorist group. But she denied the accusation, and said she was not the one in the video indicating her as a member of the NPA.

    So, thats why i asked, if she was indeed a terrorist, do the military have the right to torture her? Which means, a terrorist has no human rights.

    and to answer your question if a terrorist action is a special crime? Well, in my opinion: yes. When you kill, when you rob, when you rape, when you just jaywalk or illegal park, that news is not classified as international news. But when a bomb explodes, boom,you can watch it in CNN,BBC, Fox, Al-Jazeer or any news that is covered around the world. Extra special if a known terrorist group did that like the Al-qaeda or Jemaah islamiyah. It is condemed around the world by almost all nations.

    Well, thats just my opinion. and that is why i asked that question.
     
  16. dhanash

    dhanash Well-Known Member

    pshhh..... look who they blame it on?? the muslims.... don't you think somethings up?
     
  17. damanali

    damanali Well-Known Member

    Um, the NPA is not muslim if you dont know yet. well this topic is not about the religion, or sex or what ever else. its about terroristic acts. should terrorist have human rights?

    When you see someone with a bomb on their body/ also known as suicide bombers, can we shoot them in plain sight? cause if we shoot them,we are just doing self and everyone within that vicinity defense against that person. But by shooting him in plain sight, we are violating his human right to life, and lawful trial.
     
  18. Apollooo

    Apollooo Well-Known Member

    curse those terrorist ! A hotel in my country was bombed 3 weeks ago, and that's a real mess! just burn them with hellfire!
     
  19. tehuber1337

    tehuber1337 Well-Known Member

    You may remember something that happened a few years ago...In London, an immigrant was murdered in cold blood by plain-clothes police who suspected that he was a terrorist just because there were wires poking out of his bag or something. In such a case, the public is harmed by what would inevitably be a shocking mental image.
     
  20. damanali

    damanali Well-Known Member

    Yeah, i read that news. well, thats why i posted this in debate cause i cant figure out those terrorist's human rights.

    Thats why its special. If it explodes before killing them, then many can die, but if we kill them before it explodes, we denied them of trial and we might kill innocent people that we thought of as terrorist.