Skill level theory-rom players vs "legit" players.

First of all...NO FLAMING!



Ok, now that I said it, this is an old theory of mine back in my ds wifi clan days which seems to ring true..mostly.


Those who ligitimatly buy games might have (depending on age and skill level) an advantage over the rom players, why I think this?

-The ligit player might have fewer games, and might focus on just the one
-Rom player are spoiled by choice and may swap games constantly (I too have developed this habit )
-Ligit player may do research on the game and find out some hidden tricks or tatics, or discover them for themselves
-Rom players might play the game to completion and then leave it as that since they might move to the next game on their list




This is my theory, and while this is far from proof, it did incline some thought...


I met a guy a long time ago when I was the "city sweeper" in my clan (basically I would walk up to random people holding ds's...of resonable age, and vs them in ethier mario kart or tetris...needless to say I was fairly good in these days, unlike now ) and found someone to vs, as well as a friend of his...

Both of which I dominated in mario kart, sure they were both rob driving that unicycle bike thing of his (forgot the name) however, not only did I have a fairly better racing line, but in the second race I showed them what "snaking" was.

They had no clue despite their claim they had the game before it came out to australia, then the main dude I challenged showed me his flash cart (an old type, back when both a slot 2 and slot one were needed for just ds game play) and after a quick tour I realised...

Despite his extended time compared to mine (only 5 months at this point) he hardly played it, nor got fortunate enough to even figure out snaking...I even gave him a lesson-e got it but needed alot of work XD




So, without flaming, what do you think honestly?


I know not all rommer's and legit players are the same obviously, it's just something I wanted to kinda "debait" about..though this shouldn't count personally.

 

Re: Skill level theory-rom players vs "ligit" players.

Well I'm a ROM player, but I play my games regularily, and I don't seem to change them over that much at all (yay for avoiding that habit).

I would agree with you on the information that you have stated. But I would argue that there are certain games that ROM players would be excellent at... As I have a few that I can use for proof with myself as the example..

I downloaded Puzzle League DS a while back and after a week I could decimate pretty much anyone. I could play against the CPU on the highest difficulty setting on the highest speed level and still manage to slaughter them.

Phantasy Star Zero: After playing this for a week I had already moved up to the next difficulty with all of the "Normal" quests finished. Upon getting to the end of Arca Plant and being faced with the boss, I was doing a measly 10 damage with every shot... After half an hour of dodging and attacking, I finally managed to finish the boss off without using all of my recovery items (Note that my team mates were dead within seconds and I didn't even bother to revive them).

Initially I would think that the Legit Players do stand at an advantage because they have the official firmware for their DS Carts and thus everything should run smoothly with no glitches. But then again Skill level is the next factor and as you said, people may have a game for an extremely long period of time but they might not play it alot, and that would mean that they are terrible at it. But then again we have to remember that ROM players are the people who will always get the game that they are interested in, and this is a factor that will spur them into playing a game and becoming addicted... During their playtime their skill level should increase exponentially untill they reach a point where they simply cannot get any better.

Then again that's just my viewpoint.

 

Re: Skill level theory-rom players vs "ligit" players.

1. might
2. depending on skill level.

You've basicly said if a person who owns a legit copy of a game and is a more skillful gamer than the person who owns a rom, the person who owns the legit game is probably going to be better.

 

Re: Skill level theory-rom players vs "ligit" players.

It's spelt "Legit".
You ain't getting no dope, legit, bro.

And dude, it has nothing to do with if someone is a pirate or not. I could counter with the fact that pirates get a bigger range of games to develop skill on and they usually play games a lot more, a lot also get games earlier.
But really, legitamacy isn't an issue.

 

Re: Skill level theory-rom players vs "ligit" players.

So your reasoning for all of this is because you faced one guy and used a glitchy type move to beat him?

 

nah

 

Re: Skill level theory-rom players vs "ligit" players.

[me=hYpNoS]is pissed that people are focussing on his spelling[/me]

It's an old theory of mine, not one that might be remotely true.


I was once part of a game clan and the majority would think that this was correct, then again, 50+ members and the fact they they were more loyal to Nintendo than I was could mean it was just a myth.

Snaking is not a glitch, it's been (apparently) put in by the developers as an extra for die hard fans.

My line however when snaking wasn't the best, I would be considered average compared to others.



As for the overall skill level between the 2, not all rom players are the same, I was once a "legit" player and still have some of my skill (not much however...gone rusty).

I was JUST asking for opinions, I am aware that they might have more games to develop skills in, however I'm focussing on the fat that not all games of the same type play the same.

You can't be good on both ridge racer and Mario kart unless you focus on the 2, both have different techniques for drifting and race mechanics.

Or mortal kombat to street fighter, sure both can be akin to chess, but the moves and combat movement are totally different.


And this isn't based one just one player ether, it's based upon my experience with Roms, some thoughts, and who I vs'd.

200 wins to 50 losses in just local rounds of Mario kart ds have lead me to this conclusion (though the losses are from rival clans, and my wifi record is 400-200).



Like I said, it's just a theory, not truth, if it was why the hell would I both posting a topic like this here in a ROM community site, makes me look like a hypocrite.

 

Re: Skill level theory-rom players vs "ligit" players.

yeah, i agree with hypnos too... While ROM player ( like me) spend or maybe not even spending a cent, just finished the game is make us satisfied, while legit players spend more money on one game than us they feel waste their money if just finished the main storyline of the game, more side missions = more gameplay time

 

Re: Skill level theory-rom players vs "ligit" players.

I'm technically a rom player, since I don't have a job and can't go and buy games, but the games that I bought with my own dough I've spanked the hell out of.

The Rom games I have, I beat once and go "Eh, that was fun." and don't pick them back up.
But on the converse, there are games that I have the physical copy, and never picked up a second time.

I think it's more that Rom players are searching more for "something to do" rather than sit down and really enjoy a game, given that a lot of rom players are reduced to last gen games without shelling out the money for flash cart tech.

 

Re: Skill level theory-rom players vs "ligit" players.

i dont think there is a differ in skill level, the player skill level come from his or her ability to play certain game, the gamer will perfrom better in the game that they like.

example, back then in PS2, i dont buy game (no legit PS2 game in malaysia, dont blame me), but i still kick ass in KOF2001 in arcade nor in console, just because i like that game, however i suck ass in DDR arcade or console no matter how hard i try... i dont really like DDR, its too complicated for me.

 

Re: Skill level theory-rom players vs "ligit" players.

same here in indonesia all's pirated except ps 3

 

i agree with hyp. also, but that doesnt mean that i agree that all legit players are better than rom players. some rom users dont tend to swamp games as much.( screw you if you talk about my spelling which i think is ok...)

 

Gaming Habits vary from person to person.

If one is very serious in his/her gaming, it won't matter if he/she plays ROMS or real games.

But taken your situational input, maybe real game buyers do play better.

 

There's no correlation between being a pirate and skill level. Sorry.

 

ROMS, in my opinion, are a little better. Their free, easy to download and portable(Dont need to carry 10s of Game Cards). The downside is that lots of ROMs these days have anti-piracy and would take days or even weeks to come out with a pach. Legit players have to pay for their games though that does not seem to bother some people, but hey, its my opinion and i'm not so lucky.

 

I've never played games for the multiplayer so I personally doesn't care about that.


If, and only if, I had a few friends playing the same game I would play and train the same game. This is independent of the fact my game is ROM or Legit.

PS: Snaking on Mario Kart is legit. Every move done in a game thats independent from external cheats are legit IMO.

 

This has nothing to do with skill levels.

And we do have to buy games at some point or people would stop making games for us

Indeed, I even got proof that it was programmed into the game..some email from nintendo tech support XD


But it could have been a glitch or exploit, like the "missingno" in pokemo red/blue....COULD have been.

 

Snaking is merely using the broken mini-turbo effect of power sliding. It's been in Mario Kart since Mario Kart 64.

 

Mario Kart 64 doesn't have power sliding >_>

Also, for example, Power-slide was created for players to recover and get a small boost after doing big curves. Some people just adapted that to do it all the time and found a few shortcuts.
"Snaking" is a feature found by players, which work inside the limits of the game.

Its more or less like the Silver Gun on megaman.exe games or the Skill-immortal combination on Golden Sun 1. Both are broken and strong strategies, but they are still inside the limits of the engine isn't it?

 

1.Leave hypnos the hell alone, everyone makes spelling errors somwhere along the line
2. Imo rom players are superior overall as we have a wider variety and can pick up any game and within 5 minutes we can be good as the odds are it is silmilar to some or other game. And us having such a huga variety have played almost every genre ever.
3. Legit gamers get bored of playing a game non-stop. And thus also tend to switch between their games or even different consoles