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Red Ray: Beyond HD WTF??

Discussion in 'Computers & Modding' started by Cahos Rahne Veloza, May 10, 2008.

  1. Cahos Rahne Veloza

    Cahos Rahne Veloza The Fart Awakens

    I just saw it on the computers & IT TV proram here in the Philippines

    But I really don't get it? No not the technology, the explanation was understandable, what I don't get is why make this sort of technology become mainstream.

    Sure visuals are better in HD than on the old analog way, but why go to another step higher, what do these designers of Beyond HD want to accomplish? Do they have weird fetishes that they want us end users to be able to see every wrinkle in a woman's face or how many white hairs a 30 something guy has?

    I can't even imagine n0rp (sorry for using this on a PG-13 forum) viewed in HD, do we really need to see that much "detail"? Ugh! :p

    And to think HD was originally developed for the Scientific community, mostly by Astronomers viewing & seeking distant celestial bodies & Naturalists studying Wild life from afar, so they can't disrupt their subjects' natural teritories. And don't forget in medicine as well & in hazardous industrial conditions & the military as well.
     
  2. Almo

    Almo Well-Known Member

    ok forget movies and games for a minute, Imagine the difference it could make to security tapes and the like. no longer will they need to enhance when they zoom in, everything will be crystal clear.
     
  3. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    red ray? DVDs and CDs use red lasers...
     
  4. Cahos Rahne Veloza

    Cahos Rahne Veloza The Fart Awakens

    Yes that's what I meant, it is useful in other applications &/or situations as you have mentioned, but that kind of visual vibrance on home (or perverted, again sorry) use? Do we honestly need it?
     
  5. Born2killx

    Born2killx Well-Known Member

    They could record surveillance tapes at DVD quality, but like one minute will take up like a gig. Think of how much it will take at Ultra-High Definition video, which is like 4x the height of 1080p. (Like 1 TB/minute.) :eek:
     
  6. nomercy

    nomercy Well-Known Member

    The reason to go to even higher resolutions is to enhance the experience of watching a recorded thing. As long as the real world is not 'emulated' around someones eyes, the experience isn't good enough. That's why there is development going on.

    And red ray is just silly. Red light has a large wavelength and thus a larger focus point than blue light (i.e. Blue ray).
     
  7. calvin_0

    calvin_0 Well-Known Member

    Red Ray?.......itsnt that a old technology? i mean like Loony said, CD and DVD is already using this.......
     
  8. sir spamalot

    sir spamalot Well-Known Member

    la la la la laa

    edit: sorry about that, i've replied here 3 times but my messages wouldn't show...

    i was talking about using x-ray lasers for the next disc format but the excitement of it all faded
     
  9. koal_ferrari

    koal_ferrari Active Member

    I read in a magazine a few months back that they were developing another technology called "super-high vision", and that this will be 16 times better picture quality than current HDTV.
    Take a look here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_High_Definition_Video
     
  10. Rhith

    Rhith Well-Known Member

    FYI Everyone, CDs use IR wavelengths which are even a higher wavelength then red, hence why DVDs can hold more data.
    http://www.windows.ucar.edu/physical_science/magnetism/images/visible_spectrum_waves_big.jpg

    I actually have a Blu-ray drive from a PS3 sitting on my work bench right now.
    I wonder where all of this will bring us though, I just ordered an 8GB MicroSD/Transflash for my EZFlash for just over $35. Optical has some improving to do and less price gouging.
     
  11. equitypetey

    equitypetey Well-Known Member

    to be honest there is no point for general use as going to such an extreme of picture quality distorts the reality (as in your eyes would never see it that way)
     
  12. thebass324

    thebass324 Well-Known Member

    Also, I don't know what resolution it was, but there was some super hi def that I think the Japanese made that actually made people sick just to watch it. I believe it was above the Ultra High Definition, but I could be wrong. Honestly, the only practical application I could think of at this point is for massive screens like at sporting events or an IMAX theater or something.
     
  13. lilblkridinhood

    lilblkridinhood Well-Known Member

    NAHHHHHH you go it all wrong, you see the blue ray developers, were crips, thus BLUE ray, then the bloods got jelous, off of how much money their making, thus making RED ray, making people think it's better, XD nahhh, but honestly, we have blue ray, and HD, we DON"T NEED MORE STUFF, because if that comes out, it'll be like wat 40 bucks a DVD, hell why would i buy that, and plus with gas prices rising I WANT A CAR, XD so honestly thats a waste of time, money, and 30 second of commercial time XD why don't we just stick to what we got honestly, what more do we need, we have the graphics, the power, the technology, and the GIRLS XD but really we're gonna waste our money, and their gonna waste their money, and i need my money to buy me my shoes XD and apple is like making everything smaller and smaller and thinner and thinner, next thing you know we have a computer thats paper thin.
     
  14. Cahos Rahne Veloza

    Cahos Rahne Veloza The Fart Awakens

    No dude, we'll have our brains for computers ;D

    But seriously why must this people develop technology that's best used by the scientific community ( & the military as well) then make them available for end user consumers? I read once that HD was infact first used by the industrial sector, then by the Scientific community, then the military, because these fields really needed HD to clearly view whatever it is they needed to see. For the end user HD just became something frivolous.
     
  15. equitypetey

    equitypetey Well-Known Member

    it as allways comes down to money. if every one buys a hd tv then they are not likely to buy another one for many years so the market lags a bit but if they can make things a bit better people will buy it.
    it is also stupid because the full potential of bluray has not been used yet. and i don't even understand why they are still bothering with optical media and not moving to solid state media
     
  16. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    Cost. Solid state media is extremely expensive to produce in large capacities, thats why consoles don't use cartridges anymore, and why the N64 lost out to the PSX.
     
  17. equitypetey

    equitypetey Well-Known Member

    yeah but thats the way the sould go if they want to make it better
     
  18. anandjones

    anandjones Well-Known Member

    That would reduce sales by a lot on consoles, unless they have higher memory capable Solid state Media and Cartridges, and people would be planning to spend a lot more money than they could chew on.
     
  19. n0thealthy

    n0thealthy Well-Known Member

    To be honest, I never really saw the point of HD to start with. IMO, it doesn't represent a change big enough to warrant new hardware and media. For example there was a huge difference in quality between VHS and DVD and that's why it became so widespread. With HD it's not really that significant of a step up in quality unless you're watching on a 42in or above screen.
     
  20. equitypetey

    equitypetey Well-Known Member

    thats the point exactly. if you have hd you can watch stuff on big screens without it being pixalated. plus it doesn't need to be 42 and above you can notice a huge difference even in a 20, if you can't notice it then its not set up right. you also need to remember that a hd tv is only as good as the signal it gets from a hd source and if the source is not hd then thats why there is no difference and a hd source is no good without a hd tv. thats why if your going to upgrade, you nneed to do the whole lot and then if you don't notice the difference then your blind or your still not setting it up right.
    and remeber the quality of the product makes a huge diffence to the picture quality like for example my new pc monitor lcd is a million times brighterr and shaper then the one on my laptop or my old monitor. same goes for hd tv's old or cheap ones will have a worse picture then a well known name.
    my father in law just got a new 37" tv and a blue ray player and he can notice the difference and say's he doesn't want to go back to dvd and he is almost blind so i don't know how you can't see it