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Discussion in 'Sony' started by iharidh, Oct 12, 2009.

  1. iharidh

    iharidh Member

    Hello Everyone..
    I'm new, so i dont know if someone else has asked the same question, but i'm really curious about this one.
    what is the difference between the old PSP and the new (slim) one? Does the game different for both of them?
     
  2. MadmanNero

    MadmanNero Well-Known Member

    I am assuming your asking about the "PSP Go" that just released this month. The older PSP used UMD discs and the PSP Go you have to download games and transfer them via a memory stick, you can play older PSP games but you have to get the digital download versions of them as well.

    You can also look here for more info https://www.romulation.org/forum/index.php?topic=17930.0
     
  3. iharidh

    iharidh Member

    mmm,,nice explanation..
    but friends of mine keep telling me about "brick" state, when we recklessly change/update our software/firmware..i kinda worried about that. how would you explain about that, please?
     
  4. MadmanNero

    MadmanNero Well-Known Member

    Only bricking I know of is with the older psp models, but they can be easily unbricked with a Pandora battery or something similar and very easy to do if you are able to follow instructions. As for the PSP Go I haven't read anything about those getting bricked, but i wouldn't doubt if it happens eventually, but I'm sure people will find a way around it if it does happen.

    Personally if I was going for a PSP I would go for the oldest 1000,2000 models, the PSP Go is too high to justify the $249.00 price.
     
  5. someirishkid

    someirishkid Well-Known Member

    You can only brick your PSP if you're a complete retard.
    Your PSP can be bricked if you power-off during an update, or do the wrong update (which is impossible if you do the official one through the PSP)
     
  6. iharidh

    iharidh Member

    strange..because a friend of mine told me once that if my psp bricked, it couldn't get anything to be played. All I can do is just toss it away..haha, is that true?
    Still, your explanation is lighting my mind. But, regarding the update, I wonder if there's an unofficial update for the PSP. How about the older PSP model? Is Sony still provide the update software?
     
  7. g@l1h

    g@l1h Well-Known Member

    There is an "unnofficial" firmware update for PSP, the custom firmware allows you to play the game by using the ISO or CSO files of the game without using the UMD.
    I think the official update are still going, it's currently at the 5.55 and 6.00 version of the firmware.
     
  8. mds64

    mds64 Well-Known Member

    If the console is bricked...there is a chance of being able to fix it.

    Pandora-or tool battery-can fix that..if it's partially bricked-as in bad firmware install or you changed the inner memoery settings.

    Only the psp models 1000 and 2000 can be fixed-3000 will become full on bricks...

    And the go can't be done-it's got 5.70-can't even hack it yet :(

    And some 2000's can't be fully hacked ethier...
     
  9. someirishkid

    someirishkid Well-Known Member

    How much does the Go cost?
     
  10. mds64

    mds64 Well-Known Member

    Not too sure-but don't bother.

    The games in shops won't work-the games need to be digitally downloaded to it (and they are big) and can't take UMD's.

    And can't be hacked to play free games :(
     
  11. Natewlie

    Natewlie A bag of tricks

    50 dollars cheaper than a PS3, so 250$ American.

    With that amount of money. you might as well buy a PSP 3000 and then save the rest of the money for a PS3 or vice versa.

    People are working on a CFW as we speak, they got the Hello World program working on it a couple weeks ago, expect a CFW within 2010 I'm guessing, that doesn't mean go buy one now and wait. Because you'll be stuck with purchasing games online only and paying more than you'd buy it from a store.

    Also they aren't big, most games are around 700MBs, the biggest is a gig and a half, the PSPGo has 16 Gigs of HD space and you can add on another memory card if you'd like.
     
  12. mds64

    mds64 Well-Known Member

    Or find an even cheaper 2000 model and hack it.

    Save money every way you can.

    THAT is what I done-the 300 can only be partially hacked-and is mostly useless for homebrew software.
     
  13. Natewlie

    Natewlie A bag of tricks

    Good luck finding one, it isn't an easy task.

    By the way, I edited my post.

    The PSPGo is mostly for the tech geeks who like to have the latest, it supposed to be more comfortable than the PSP and looks nicer, but that's about it. It isn't worth it if you aren't a tech geek.

    Sony's thinking a bit too much into the future here, the network distrubution platform shouldn't be ONLY that, considering that there's still bandwidth limits, slow connections and places that have NO access to the internet. It'd be plausible maybe 6 years down the road when the internet is more widely available, but not now.
     
  14. mds64

    mds64 Well-Known Member

    I seen it-the stick sucks.

    Poor positioning.

    Rather use dpad more on that.

    PSPgo is more of a test-hence why the 3000 is still being sold.

    Plus anti piracy experiement-they need to do something.
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    As for the 3000 firmware-I know you can use a combo of checkHEN and cfw enabler-but currently it's a temp hack.

    Unless you rip the machine apart and change how it runs-it's not gonna be like m33 or GEN.

    I know a user here who reckons he's done it-and from what I seen he is right-but it's an advanced job that only a techy would know.
     
  15. Natewlie

    Natewlie A bag of tricks

    You must think the Dual Shock controller sucks then too, because it's nearly in the same position as the left joystick on a Dual Shock controller.

    That's what I think it is for, I don't think it's selling well though, thank god. I'd rather have a second PSP, Sony could make tons of money if they made a NEW handheld, look at the 360, it released earlier than the PS3 and Wii and sold quite a bit even before the Wii and PS3 came out.

    I think it's a somewhat needed experiment, I think network distribution is the future, but the PSPGo should be released 6 years down the line with more new features than the PSP. The PSPGo actually has LESS features than the PSP and all it's doing is making the PSP more attractive to buy over the PSPGo, it doesn't make much sense. Plus it's garnered a lot of bad press, one reason why is because a Sony exec said before that you could possibly have a transfer type system so you can put UMDs on the PSPGo, but they ditched that entirely.

    I doubt anti-piracy, Sony knows no matter what they do, someone's going to hack it, someone got the Hello World program working on it, which means an exploit or something is around the corner. It's a test to see if a system that offers only network distributed games could be succesful, and the answer is, no, not right now.
     
  16. mds64

    mds64 Well-Known Member

    The dual shock is ok.

    But i did a comparison with a ps2 controller...

    I only just got used to the ps2-the psp is wider :(


    The older psp's have a better stick position-closer...



    And it is one form of anti piracy-it's on 5.7--and that hello world thing-or the ability to hack the save states-will be erased.

    They'll have new ofw's soon.




    ...if you made a console-you don't want people getting free games for it now would ya?

    I wouldn't :(

    And...they did screw up on the UMD choice-there was no realisitally safe way to have people get free game conversions of umds-you could borrow a mates and download that-and give him the UMD...

    They are gonna make a loss sooner or later...


    Now people know how to hack it partially however (your point) they will find a way.

    Maybe even a new m33...who knows...
     
  17. Natewlie

    Natewlie A bag of tricks

    It's in the same position from the D-Pad to the joystick. As much as I love my PSP 2000, it's not comfortable and my hands start cramping up about 30 minutes in playing a game because everything on the handheld makes you bend your thumbs and the strange positioning of the L and R buttons makes it ten times worse. Making the nub farther away was the best idea since you don't have to bend your thumb. If there's a reason to get a PSPGo the comfort is easily one of them.

    The firmware is to combat piracy, the Sony Store only works with the highest FW, if you don't have it, then you can't access it. Sony made the firmware to combat piracy (and add a few useless doodads), not the PSPGo, to me, as a pirate, the PSPGo is a much more attractive machine if it were hackable. Also, if you want a sure fire way that your PSPGo is hackable is buy one and don't upgrade, if you have a PS3, you can buy PSP games through the Sony Store on there and copy them to the PSP.

    I think there's a way, stores have a kiosk, hook up your PSPGo, put in your UMD someone and it read the memory and puts it on all official like. Somehow it would only read it once or something,

    Or e-mail a receipt to whoever, then they send you the eboot to use on the PSPGo.

    The second one is much more plausible to combat piracy, as each receipt is different.
     
  18. mds64

    mds64 Well-Known Member

    Wrong-the stick is below the dpad-about an inch.

    The go has it towards closer to where the volume buttons were.

    Do you know how much a pain god of war on psp was?

    Imagine this-I may have big hands-but if the original duke xbox controller gave me a sore hand-thiswould only make me crush the dam go!
    Even my local eb games refuses to stock them-they agree with my point-all other stores chose to stock them as well.

    I cannot play a game properly if my thumb is stretched out-because I'm used to a slightly bent thumb during play.

    Though like I said-I had issues with the dual shock sticks-I got used to them-but where possible I use the dpad instead-or play my gamecube instead-perfection :)



    Now to your UMD to go methods...

    1.All the games are simple copies-there is no realistic way to do it unless the user is foreced to surrender the UMD-which is to be destroyed inorder to prevent it going back out-into my game ripping hands-give 5 copies out-then get a digital copy for a go.

    Of course that's a dumb idea-no one would want to surrender the UMD-and letting them have it means they can go to another store and do it for...say a friend.

    The UMD's are uniquie-no-no way of making each one stand out.

    2.Who keeps those things after 7 days

    If I kepted mine i'd have...


    [me=mds64]checks alll self ripped psp games[/me]

    400.

    I simply do not have the room.

    And most people wouldn't keep them.

    And again-even if people did keep them-anyone with half a brain would lend a reciept and a umd out...and the process repeats-just go to another store.

    I suppose the reciept would be destroyed-but if something went wrong...

    Prehaps another one be printed...

    Hrm...prehaps there is a way to make it work-but the point stands-the recipts...no one keeps after a few days.
     
  19. Natewlie

    Natewlie A bag of tricks

    Stores refuse to stock the Go because they can't make money off of it. Not because your hands are too big. Sony might have to sell prepaid game cards so that EB could make a profit.

    I keep my receipts, if games were transferable through that or through a code that can only be used once, this would work. The code thing would be more ideal, actually
     
  20. asdzxc123789

    asdzxc123789 Well-Known Member

    Go! is something else. Its not competing with DS nor 3000. Its trying to compete with iPhone. And I have to admit, if Sony can think of a way to convert UMD games into go!, they can sell more than 3M in a month.

    Also I heard 4000 will include UMD. So dont worry.
    But If I cant mod my PSP 2000 in 2-3 weeks, I'ma buying a Go!.