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Ps2 iso's too big for fat32?

Discussion in 'Technical Help' started by msg2009, Sep 1, 2010.

  1. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    So far ive kept them all on disc but now I want to play them.
    I tried extracting them to my external drive but it seems fat32 won't support files that size, or at least thats what I understand from the message.
    So is there a way to do it without formatting my drive?
    Its my games drive and has over 200000 roms on it, I really don't want to format.
     
  2. sylar1000

    sylar1000 Well-Known Member

    Do you know the exact message it gives? Have you tried moving the iso's over one at a time, or in a group?
     
  3. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    Re: Ps2 iso\'s too big for fat32?

    I had them in parts from downloads, 100mb each when I tried unzipping them together for the iso it said file to large and wouldn't continue. I can't remember the exact message.
    Google said 1byte under 4GB is the limit for file size on fat32?
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    Ive extracted it to my C drive and no problems. Its NTFS.
     
  4. sylar1000

    sylar1000 Well-Known Member

    Ah, from a website: To back up that number, I searched the Microsoft Web site and found numerous articles confirming that the file-size limit on FAT32 is (2^32)-1 bytes, or one byte less than a full 4GB.

    Ouch, sucks. I guess moving over roms from your external to another HDD wouldn't fix it since it's a problem with the size of the ps2 iso's themselves. How big is the External HDD, if it were big enough you might be able to partition it and make the partition NTSF i think, not sure though.
     
  5. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    1TB.
    That is a good idea, if I do it half to NTFS can I move all my stuff over then format the other half and then join it?
     
  6. sylar1000

    sylar1000 Well-Known Member

    No clue >.<, i'm not very good with stuff like that, it's probably better to hear from someone else who's actually done that, i don't want to steer you in the wrong direction. I think loony is pretty smart when it comes to that stuff, i am sure there are other users too.
     
  7. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    I thought it might possibly be able to run the iso from a zip archive like zsnes but it won't, damn it was only 1.17GB compressed.
     
  8. sylar1000

    sylar1000 Well-Known Member

    That was actually a pretty good idea, not sure why snes roms work within zip archives, while iso's won't. It might have to do with the way disc images are used or something, no clue. It also works with gameboy games i think too.
     
  9. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    its because the snes emulator is capable of decompressing zip files. It wouldnt help because the file still needs to be decompressed.

    It is possible to split and join partitions but you need specialist software such as acronis disk director or paragon partition manager, There's something wrong anyway because fat32 doesnt support 1TB disks. The basic process you will follow regardless of what software you use is: resize existing partition down (to say half the disk), create a new partition in the free space and format it to ntfs, copy all the data across, delete the fat32 partition, resize the ntfs partition to fill the disk.
     
  10. TirithRR

    TirithRR Well-Known Member

    I think alcohol can/will copy a game into multiple files. I have a copy of Xenosaga which is in two parts. .I00 and .I01. The MDF file points to .I00 and .I01. The parts are small enough to fit on a Fat32 drive. So if you can get an NTFS drive you can re-copy the game from a virtual drive to your FAT32 drive using this method.
     
  11. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    Windows wont let me shrink the volume or resize it all the options are greyed out, The only available options are format and delete volume.
    I have 2 NTFS HDD's already installed.
    Should I move everything across and then try to reformat the fat32 drive?
    Will the options still be grey or do I just click on reformat?
    Ive just looked and it says 931GB, when i got it it was 1TB and I changed it to FAT32 because of something to do with the xbox 360....I cant remember now.
     
  12. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    windows disk management cannot resize partitions, you need a program like I mentioned in my previous post.
     
  13. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    Paragon partition only recognises my C and D drives, it cant find F or L, L is my external drive.
     
  14. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    try acronis disk director? USB makes it a bit more complex sadly.
     
  15. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    Re: Ps2 iso\'s too big for fat32?

    Its over 100mb and Ive had my internet capped, this is turning into a nightmare grrrrr.
    Ive found partition magic on my xp partition and it recognises my drive but I don't trust it, it seems a bit complicated I aint got a clue if it will delete my data or not.
    Im copying everything over to my D drive then trying to format it to NTFS, theres just too much data to lose and only half is backed up.
    *sigh* only 4 hours of copying left......
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    Well partition magic is shit, it wouldn't resize, split volumes or even format, it just rebooted then said it couldn't find file system of L or could not do something else.
    Good job I backed everything up because I had to format with windows disk manager.
    Just tried extracting GTA3 and it works so now to move all my data back, will take about 6 hours :(
    Damn all that work just to put a file on a HDD....