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PC Upgrade Advise. Any One Help?

Discussion in 'Computers & Modding' started by Halo-101, Jan 22, 2011.

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  1. Halo-101

    Halo-101 Well-Known Member

    Ok well currently my pc is sitting on
    1GB Ram
    Nvidia Geforce 6200
    Pentium 4 1.8GHZ

    and i neeed to upgrade to play the latest games like borderlands,darksiders,prototype.etc

    so would upgrading to a system containg the following allow me to play these new games and will i notice a speed increase..im going to have to work my ass of from my mowing business but once i reach my goal it will be worth it.

    Kingston 4GB(2 X 2GB) DDR3-1333MHZ
    GeForce GTX 465
    Intel Core i3 540 Processor LGA1156 3.06GHz 4MB Cache CPU

    these are the basic componnents of the new system excempt the card which i must buy seperately but heres the full details:

    Product Description:
    Intel Core i3 540 Processor LGA1156 3.06GHz 4MB Cache CPU
    Asus P7H55D-M Pro LGA1156 4DDR3 GLAN 1PCIEx16 mATX HDMI HD AUDIO
    Kingston 4GB(2 X 2GB) DDR3-1333MHZ
    Samsung 22X DVDRW Black SATA (SH-S223C-BL)
    Western Digital 500G SATAII 7200 rpm HDD(16Mb Cache)
    CoolerMaster Centurion RC333 Elite Black with 420W + HD Audio(RC333KKR
    Logitech MK250 Wireless Desktop

    + Buying Seperately
    GeForce GTX 465.

    Can Anyone Recommend this system?

    and speed/games working.etc
     
    Halo-101, Jan 22, 2011
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  2. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    the i3 won't handle games very well, you should be looking at an i7, If money is an issue then go AMD.

    It's also highly unlikely that a 420W PSU will be capable of running a GTX 465
     
    Loonylion, Jan 22, 2011
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  3. Halo-101

    Halo-101 Well-Known Member

    So what PSU And AMD do you suggest?

    and will the i3 run games better than my current pentium 4?
     
    Halo-101, Jan 22, 2011
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  4. Jonez001

    Jonez001 Well-Known Member

    HP PAVILION DV series are great in my opinion. Ok, they are laptops but I love my one :D
     
    Jonez001, Jan 22, 2011
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  5. Halo-101

    Halo-101 Well-Known Member

    lol yer..na im looking around umart for a good precompiled desktop but since the i3 doesnt run games very well and the PSU wont be good enough i have to do configure own in precompiled environment with the same items just different PSU and Processor...
     
    Halo-101, Jan 22, 2011
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  6. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    http://forum.romulation.net/index.php?topic=46738.msg1043014#msg1043014

    yes an i3 will be better than a P4, but its an ultra cheap processor that's absolutely fine if you're writing a letter/email to your auntie mabel, but it will be badly lacking when you try to run games.
     
    Loonylion, Jan 22, 2011
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  7. Halo-101

    Halo-101 Well-Known Member

    is an i5 good for gaming
    and please name a cheap recommencded power supplyand cooler thtll be the best choice to use the graphics card i have chosen..
    thnx soo much loony
     
    Halo-101, Jan 22, 2011
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  8. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    a high end i5 will be adequate for most games.

    In terms of power supplies, 'cheap' and 'good' are opposites. Assuming you want a good one that isn't likely to blow up and take your computer with it, consider a Corsair hx750 or hx850, or a silverstone olympia 750.
     
    Loonylion, Jan 22, 2011
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  9. Halo-101

    Halo-101 Well-Known Member

    This:

    Intel Core i3 550 Processor LGA1156 3.2GHz 4MB Cache CPU
    Asus P7H55-M LX LGA1156 4DDR3 GLAN 1PCIEx16 mATX
    Kingston 2GB DDR3-1333MHZ
    Kingston 2GB DDR3-1333MHZ
    Asus EAH5450 PCI-E 2.1 1G DDR3 DVI HDMI DX11 LP
    Samsung 22X DVDRW Black SATA (SH-S223C-BL)
    Asus Xonar DG PCI Gaming 5.1 Channel Dolby soundcard Built-in Headphone AMP,GX
    CoolerMaster Centurion RC333 Elite Black HD Audio NO PSU(RC333KKN1)
    Aereon ASC-520C 520W (ATX)
    Gigabyte GK-KM7600 2.4Ghz Wireless Multimedia Keyboard & Mouse?

    TOTAL : $$668

    O only wanna run old/new games eg.Prototype/Darksiders....
     
    Halo-101, Jan 22, 2011
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  10. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    thats still an i3.

    also the PSU is a no-name, you can't trust it. It probably still isn't capable of powering a 465 anyway.
     
    Loonylion, Jan 22, 2011
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  11. Halo-101

    Halo-101 Well-Known Member

    Asus EAH5450 - Im getting this card currently..

    and yer i no my father claims that the i3 is still better than the pentium 4 and should run darksiders...he also says the only difference between an 13 an 15 is hyperthreadung..? or sumtin but yer

    and the PSU is hopsted a tumart so i sassume its ok quality?

    and just wondering evn though im getting an 450 now ...How many Wats would i need in the PSU to run an 465 anyway...u no
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    or is this an ok alternative then...

    Antec 520W ATX NEO 520C ECO PSU
     
    Halo-101, Jan 22, 2011
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  12. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    its not the number of watts that matters, its the number of amps on the 12V rail, the GTX 280 I had needed 40 amps. so you need a PSU that supplies 50A+ on the 12V rail. A 450W wont cut it.

    No that antec is not an option, it has 3 rails of 18A each. You need 50A+ on a single rail. Get one of the ones I suggested previously.
     
    Loonylion, Jan 23, 2011
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  13. Halo-101

    Halo-101 Well-Known Member

    520W?

    i need it to be under $750 all up and with the ones you have suggested it becomes 832

    so would any of the PSU's i posted be able to handle the Asus EAH5450
     
    Halo-101, Jan 23, 2011
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  14. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    No, none of them would.
     
    Loonylion, Jan 23, 2011
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  15. Halo-101

    Halo-101 Well-Known Member

    OK...well i guess ill have to work a bit more then....to get the extra money

    ITEMs to Order :
    Intel Core i3 550 Processor LGA1156 3.2GHz 4MB Cache CPU
    Asus P7H55-M LX LGA1156 4DDR3 GLAN 1PCIEx16 mATX
    Kingston 2GB DDR3-1333MHZ
    Kingston 2GB DDR3-1333MHZ
    Seagate SATAII 500GB 7200RPM (SV35 Surveillance
    Asus EAH5450 PCI-E 2.1 1G DDR3 DVI HDMI DX11 LP
    Samsung 22X DVDRW Black SATA (SH-S223C-BL)
    ASUS PCI-G31 54Mbps Windows 7 Ready WLAN PCI Card
    CoolerMaster Centurion RC333 Elite Black HD Audio NO PSU(RC333KKN1)
    SilverStone ST75F-P 750W Power Supply, 80Plus Silver

    Other :


    TOTAL : $$745

    Will Run ProtoType and newer games? or this:...

    ITEMs to Order :
    Intel Core i5 650 Processor LGA1156 3.2GHz 4MB Cache CPU
    Asus P7H55-M LX LGA1156 4DDR3 GLAN 1PCIEx16 mATX
    Kingston 2GB DDR3-1333MHZ
    Kingston 2GB DDR3-1333MHZ
    Seagate SATAII 500GB 7200RPM (SV35 Surveillance
    Asus EAH5450 PCI-E 2.1 1G DDR3 DVI HDMI DX11 LP
    Samsung 22X DVDRW Black SATA (SH-S223C-BL)
    ASUS PCI-G31 54Mbps Windows 7 Ready WLAN PCI Card
    CoolerMaster Centurion RC333 Elite Black HD Audio NO PSU(RC333KKN1)
    SilverStone ST75F-P 750W Power Supply, 80Plus Silver

    Other :


    TOTAL : $$811
    Other :


    Hoping Number 1 Cause Its Fairly Cheap
     
    Halo-101, Jan 23, 2011
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  16. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    WLAN in desktop PCs doesnt work very well, I wouldnt bother with the WLAN card. Just run a cable.
     
    Loonylion, Jan 23, 2011
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  17. Halo-101

    Halo-101 Well-Known Member

    Hmm yer well my router is in control with my parents and it can only be wireless so... yer.... but other than that the PC choicing of the latest 2 would be working swell?
     
    Halo-101, Jan 23, 2011
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  18. asdfth12

    asdfth12 Well-Known Member

    Actully, a 5450 would run fine on that psu. That is, if I found the card that youi were planning to buy.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121365

    ASUS X450 cards are usually aimed at HTPC setups but are a excellent poor persons gaming video card.

    That said, a AMD build would be better for you. What site are you purchasing the parts from anyway? (Optionally, were are you located at?)
     
    asdfth12, Jan 23, 2011
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  19. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    oh yes it probably would handle a 5450, I assumed you were still talking about the gtx 465.
     
    Loonylion, Jan 23, 2011
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  20. asdfth12

    asdfth12 Well-Known Member

    *facepalm*
     
    asdfth12, Jan 23, 2011
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