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Need help with my computer!

Discussion in 'Computers & Modding' started by Hyza, Dec 23, 2008.

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  1. Hyza

    Hyza Active Member

    Alright. So I'm getting a new computer and all (exciting stuff, I know :p) and I was just wondering if my system would be efficiently run with my system. I'm getting :
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450
    2 GeForce 8800 GTS's in SLI
    P5N-D Motherboard
    1 TB Sata Hard drive
    A mouse, and a keyboard.

    I'm thinkin' of getting a 650 Watt PSU. Like an Antec Trio 650 Watt PSU
    3 Rails of course
    85% efficiency.

    Any input would be amazing. :D!
     
    Hyza, Dec 23, 2008
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  2. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    should be OK, although I'd be going for a 700-800W to allow room for future upgrades

    Fewer, larger 12V rails is better than more smaller ones. This is because its harder to overload a single rail.

    Stick to known brands such as antec/seasonic/OCZ whatever you get.
     
    Loonylion, Dec 23, 2008
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  3. Gietz

    Gietz Well-Known Member

    How much ram are you getting. What frequency is will the ram be. DDR2 or DDR3. I'd recommend getting ram with the same frequency to your processor, cos then the system will run more efficiently.

    Also what OS are you going to run. XP, Vista, Ubuntu. And will you get 32-bit or 64-bit
     
    Gietz, Dec 23, 2008
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  4. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    Not true, just get the fastest ram your board supports.
     
    Loonylion, Dec 23, 2008
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  5. equitypetey

    equitypetey Well-Known Member

    sounds fancy but quads and sli are pointless and a waste of money
     
    equitypetey, Dec 23, 2008
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  6. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    not really, quads are very useful if you're into video editing like I am (a lot of other intensive applications use them too; plus it allows you to do more at once) and SLI can give you the graphics power of an expensive card by using two much cheaper ones.
     
    Loonylion, Dec 23, 2008
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  7. equitypetey

    equitypetey Well-Known Member

    there are still very little programs that use quads efficiently or even more then the one core and not every one is like you and needs ridiculous systems
    and the money spent on the sli board and the two cards can be spent more wisley on a better card anyway.
    but you have to admit that it is a waste of money for fancy sounding stuff if its nnot going to be put to its full potential
     
    equitypetey, Dec 23, 2008
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  8. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    most boards I've seen have been SLI or crossfire; especially recently. Multiple PCI Express x16 slots gives more flexibility as any PCI-E cards will work in them, whereas a PCI-E x4 card would be bottlenecked in a x1 slot. You don't even have to do SLI, you could have a geforce 9800 driving your monitor and a cheap 8 series card working as a physics processor board.
     
    Loonylion, Dec 23, 2008
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  9. ultra

    ultra Guest

    sli only if both are 16x [typically from nvidia boards and are typically expensive].
     
    ultra, Dec 23, 2008
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  10. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    actually they run at x8 when in SLI, and any cards from the 6800 up can be used in SLI (both must be the same though) My board can do quad SLI and has 2 x16 slots and 2 x8 slots.
     
    Loonylion, Dec 23, 2008
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  11. Hyza

    Hyza Active Member

    I'm using 4 gig's of DDR2.. the "cheaper" stuff. I'm really into video editing etc, and I ain't paying for it.. Thank god for Dad's :p

    And I'm using Windows Vista.. God forbid :(

    and at Equitypetey : I already HAD 1 8800 GTS bro. Got it for cheap for some special on newegg one day. I'm just getting another one because there's a deal on atm. ALSO, I WAS gonna get an E8600, the last of the Duo Core's by Intel, but for 50 buck's more.. I can get a quad with a whole new chipset.
     
    Hyza, Dec 23, 2008
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  12. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    Then why didn't you say so?

    video editing requires a lot of ram (when editing) and a powerful CPU (when rendering, more cores == better if you use decent software like sony vegas, adobe premiere is not multi CPU capable, so less cores more per core speed is better). You need a lot of *fast* storage, I have 4 drives: one with the OS and software installed on, one with pagefile and temporary folders (called a scratch disk) and 2x 1TB drives, one for source video and one for rendered (== output video). All are SATAII.

    Keep all your drives defragged, and never render to the same disk that your source files are on. Above all, save often and be patient while rendering, it is a very slow process.

    Additionally don't use external storage in your work process; only work from internal disks, and never, ever work with heavily compressed video.

    For the benefit of other people wanting a computer for video editing (called an NLE station), avoid motherboards with VIA chipsets; they crash when they encounter sustained high datarates.
     
    Loonylion, Dec 23, 2008
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  13. Hyza

    Hyza Active Member

    Thanks for the input loony. I got the ram for that purpose alone. I have 3 Harddrives, b/c I have a full full tower. 500 gb Each.
     
    Hyza, Dec 23, 2008
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  14. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    well technically I have 7 hard disks, but only 6 are visible to the computer and only 4(5) are used when I'm doing video work. My system (OS and programs) drive is actually a mirrored disk array (hardware RAID 1) using two disks, but only appearing as one to the computer, and two others are a general storage/downloads drive and a very fast disk for installing games on.

    [​IMG]
     
    Loonylion, Dec 23, 2008
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  15. Gietz

    Gietz Well-Known Member

    Hmmm. I thought running the RAM at the same speed as the processor would have them run 1 to 1 and run slightly, not massively better. It works with my computer. Both my processor and my RAM are at 800mhz and they run really well together
     
    Gietz, Dec 24, 2008
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  16. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    it did before computers started using dedicated memory controllers.
     
    Loonylion, Dec 24, 2008
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  17. touche112

    touche112 New Member

    If I may make a reccommendation, do NOT go ASUS for your motherboard. I have their M2N4-SLI, which is about to asplode, and they refuse to replace it. I waited on hold for an hour and a half (on a Tuesday) for their RMA department. I would reccommend EVGA, XFX, and preferably, a 680i or above Northbridge.
     
    touche112, Dec 24, 2008
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  18. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    NOT evga, they suck ass. Asus are one of the most reliable I've ever had, Gigabyte are also good, and one of my friends swears by MSI. Don't get DFI as their boards are temperamental.
     
    Loonylion, Dec 24, 2008
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  19. equitypetey

    equitypetey Well-Known Member

    i like msi boards
     
    equitypetey, Dec 24, 2008
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  20. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    There's a second recommendation then. I've only ever used Gigabyte/Asus/DFI/Tyan.
     
    Loonylion, Dec 24, 2008
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