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More Worthwhile Replacement?

Discussion in 'Sony' started by Lephantome92, Jul 10, 2013.

  1. Lephantome92

    Lephantome92 Well-Known Member

    ok, so my backwards-compatible ps3 died, and i've been saving up my money to get a refurbished backwards-compatible one. however, would it be more worthwhile in the long run to get just the backwards-compatible ps3, or get slims of each the ps2 and ps3? if it was going to be backwards-compatible, i'd just wait for ps4, but it's not. :mad: one factor may be that i have sisters, and i have several DDR games. if i'd get two systems, i'd need to replace the dance pad i already have, which could vary in cost (researching on the interwebs later)

    the biggest concern about the worth is because of how original ps3s were prone to overheating
     
  2. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    mine has never overheated, and if you get concerned about the heat, switch the fan into jet engine mode (turn it on using the eject button, and cover your ears).
     
  3. Lephantome92

    Lephantome92 Well-Known Member

    is yours one of the fat versions? those were the ones that would frequently overheat
     
  4. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    backwards compatible 60GB fat, yes.
     
  5. necr0

    necr0 Well-Known Member

    Gotta get myself one of those.
     
  6. Lephantome92

    Lephantome92 Well-Known Member

    damn. was it all fat ones that had a chance at overheating, or just the 4-port 80GB ones?
     
  7. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    I don't see why an 80GB would be any more prone to overheating than a 60GB. Which way up was it, and where (on carpet, in a cabinet etc?)
     
  8. insanecrazy07

    insanecrazy07 Well-Known Member

    My 80 GB one took a shit on me.
    They are prone to overheating, more so than the slim versions.
     
  9. Lephantome92

    Lephantome92 Well-Known Member

    it was on its bottom (disc horizontal), and i kept it on the top shelf of my media cabinet. after the first time (MAYBE second time) it overheated, i cut out the section of the backing material around the entire shelf, as opposed to just a hole for the cables. if i remember right, the shelf was about 18" x 9". the front was completely open to the room, and the missing back was about a foot away from the back wall


    on a different note, it looks like, for the most part, getting the two systems may be less expensive than even gamestop/eb games. o_O from the looks of it, most of the systems i see don't have anything beyond the system for over $200, yet at gamestop's online store, you can end up getting both systems, with all the extras needed, for just over $300. i just might end up praying that a ps3 slim stays around $220 online so i can order it and not need to worry about finding an opportune time to go to the mall and pick everything up when i have the money for a ps3 next month
     
  10. Nachtholm

    Nachtholm Member

    Of course, a PS2 on component generally looks more fluid than a bc ps3 anyways.
    The BC ps3, being upscaled, ends up creating a ton of graphic artifacts which are generally not present in the same game on a component PS2. Trust me, the bc on my 60GB looks awful compared to my old PS2.
     
  11. Lephantome92

    Lephantome92 Well-Known Member

    idk how it would compare on my setup when i had a PS3, because i had that set up via component, so there wasn't really any upscaling. maybe i should pop in KH and just check if there is a bit of a difference (though i won't play too much, cuz i plan on getting KH 1.5 ASAP)
     
  12. Nachtholm

    Nachtholm Member

    My ps3 was plugged into HDMI, so that may be the source of the difference.
     
  13. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    I've never heard of a PS2 being connected via component, nor a PS3 for that matter. Sure you don't mean composite? (composite = 3 plugs, 1 video (yellow), 2 audio (red + white), component = 4-5 plugs, all video).
     
  14. Nachtholm

    Nachtholm Member

    5 plugs, 3 video (Red, Blue and Green) and 2 audio (Red and White).
    This component cable in question is referred to as YPBPR
    The ports for said setup are common on older HDTVs and predated HDMI as the HD video cable of choice. Some modern HDTVs still have one port for this video cable. The format transfers RGB data in it's componets (Red Blue and Green were each transferred along their own wire.
    Launch ps3 units shipped with this kind of cable iirc...
    This is the cable for the PS2 as sold by Sony in the US
    This is the cable for the ps3
    Since the entire line of Playstation home consoles use the same analog A/V bus, the cables are pretty much interchangeable.
     
  15. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    my PS3 came with composite. as did every ps2 I've ever seen.

    I've never seen component with audio plugs either, its always been RGB + vsync, and sometimes hsync too. It was the format of choice for large computer monitors at one point, long before DVI.
     
  16. Nachtholm

    Nachtholm Member

    Really? Might be because I'm in the states, but I've never seen the cable you're talking about...

    I've updated my previous post....
    Your reply was in b4 edit.
     
  17. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    never seen either of those supplied with a console.

    [​IMG] This is the type of component I used to work with, RGB + vsync and hsync

    Consoles in the UK since the PS2 have always come with composite. Prior to the PS2 it was usually an RF adaptor, but I think the PSX might have come with a composite cable. PS2 was composite, as was GC, DC was RF.

    [​IMG]

    This is composite, yellow is video, red and white are right and left audio. The PS2s I've seen in the US were composite too, so you must have got a good package or something.
     
  18. insanecrazy07

    insanecrazy07 Well-Known Member

    They always shipped them with composite, but for $30, you can run component. I don't know why you're so stuck on the detail as to what cables they shipped with...if I can get something better than composite, then that's what I'm getting.
     
  19. Lephantome92

    Lephantome92 Well-Known Member

    lol shows how much i know about cables. i never knew there was a difference between component and composite. my ps2 is thus hooked up by composite (as such, which is the best color for video? right now i have it plugged in to green, and it seems fine)
     
  20. Nachtholm

    Nachtholm Member

    If you are using a plug like the component I use, than the only color a RCA composite cable (as pictured in Loony's post) will work in is the green.
    The reason being that RCA composite stores the entire picture then transfers it in the same data format B&W TVs used for brightness. IIRC, this is the waveset used by an ociliscope... The YPBPR component cables transfer Red and Blue on their own cable, but wrap Green with the brightness data. Thus, RCA composite video will work in a YPBPR plug if placed in the green plug.
    This fact is what led to the adoption of YPBPR for HD video on TVs in the US. At the time most video players and game systems used RCA composite, so the reverse compatibility was deemed important.