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Microsoft Gives Up on Vista

Discussion in 'Computers & Modding' started by Patton, Apr 29, 2008.

  1. Patton

    Patton Guest

    C/P........
    Microsoft Gives Up on Vista
    By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols


    The question now isn't "Is Vista Dead?" It is. The real question is: Can Microsoft get Windows 7 out in time to save its desktop domination? I think Microsoft "could" pull it off. Here's how.

    Vista is dead.

    That's not what Bill Gates said at a seminar on corporate philanthropy in Miami on April 4, but it might as well have been. What Gates actually said, according to the Reuters report, is that he expects that the next desktop version of Windows, Windows 7, would be released "sometime in the next year or so."

    Goodbye Vista. It has not been fun knowing you.

    I predicted that Microsoft was giving up on Vista in January. It seems I was right. Microsoft's own top brass had hated Vista when it first came out, why should they expect anyone else to like it?

    Vista SP1 has proven to be a painful upgrade and its performance still lags behind XP SP2 and, the still unreleased XP SP3. Worse still, from a Microsoft executive's viewpoint, Windows is actually losing desktop market share to Mac OS X and Linux. Microsoft never loses desktop market share. But with Vista Microsoft is finally losing customers.

    I think Microsoft saw the handwriting on the wall early on. The company started playing up Windows 7 as early as July 2007. Now, Microsoft's business plan is always to get its customers to upgrade to the next version. It's how they make their billions. But, in this case, Vista was barely out the door.

    Can Microsoft actually make a Windows 7 that can ship by 2009 that will win customers? Vista was infamous for its blown deadlines. Windows 7 must not only replace the failed Vista, it has to convince Microsoft's customers that Windows 7 will really be better than XP.

    That isn't going to be easy. I find it more than a little telling that Microsoft has given XP Home a new lease on life for UMPC (Ultra Mobile PCs). Still. I think Microsoft has one card up its sleeve that just might keep its customers happy and make it out in 2009: Server 2008 Workstation.

    In stark contrast with Vista, Server 2008 works extremely well in eWEEK Labs and in my own Linux-dominated office. Even with some security troubles, Server 2008 is a darn sight better than Vista or Server 2003.

    Cleaned and Speeded Up

    So, what Microsoft could do is use Server 2008's kernel as the core of Windows 7. On top of that it adds a cleaned and speeded up Aero Glass interface, Silverlight and Internet Explorer 8. At the same time, Microsoft should dump the Vista user interface command structure and return to XP.

    One reason why people don't like Vista is not only is it slower than XP, it requires them to relearn how to do bread-and-butter operations. While Microsoft is at it, they can also throw out such annoying 'Vistaisms' as requiring users to answer seemingly endless menu choices on whether they really want to install a program or what have you.

    To make darn sure that Windows 7 doesn't have the software compatibility problems that still plague Vista SP1, they can also add an XP compatibility layer. This would actually be an XP VM (virtual machine) running with Server 2008's Hyper-V virtualization. If an application doesn't run with the native Server 8 core, no problem; just automatically run it in the XP VM.

    Old Windows hands will recall that Microsoft once used a similar approach in Windows NT 3.5 with a WOW (Windows on Windows) sub-system that let users run Windows 95 applications on NT.

    If Microsoft were to take this path, I can actually see the company delivering a new desktop operating system by 2009 that users would actually want to use. If they try, as they did with Vista, to reinvent the desktop operating system wheel, there's no way they'll get anything out until 2011 that users will want to run.

    And, by then, Microsoft's problem may be convincing Linux and Mac OS users to come back to Windows rather than trying to get XP users to upgrade.

    Source: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Windows/Microsoft-gives-up-on-Vista/
     
  2. anandjones

    anandjones Well-Known Member

    Haha, about time. Let's hope the next Windows is a bit better.
     
  3. ultra

    ultra Guest

    here is the link to the article for those who may want something more of a merit, then i again i am skeptical about the merits.

    http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Windows/Microsoft-gives-up-on-Vista/
     
  4. Born2killx

    Born2killx Well-Known Member

    I had to buy Vista. Meh.
     
  5. ultra

    ultra Guest

    one reason why i thought vista sucks is because it was exclusive for dx 10 and it was unfair for not allowing the existing os [win xp] to have that ability to play dx 10.
     
  6. Tboi

    Tboi Well-Known Member

    it came with my laptop, i tried it out, ah well, when windows vienna comes out ill be buying a laptop with vienna :)
     
  7. Born2killx

    Born2killx Well-Known Member

    Vienna was one of its old names. Now it's called Windows... 7! Boring. :p
     
  8. takaji

    takaji New Member

    Just change from Vista to Ubuntu. Vista is a night mare for me. I'm trying to use Vista, but will switch back to Ubuntu soon. Ubuntu is very easy to use, add application online, 100% free, long term support. So why I have to buy Vista and don't know how to use?
    This version of Vista come along with my laptop, sigh! :'(
     
  9. Born2killx

    Born2killx Well-Known Member

    I had no idea how to use Ubuntu, so I uninstalled it.
     
  10. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    ubuntu sucks. Theres way better distros out there.
     
  11. calvin_0

    calvin_0 Well-Known Member

    Vista finally die, its about time XD
     
  12. sir spamalot

    sir spamalot Well-Known Member

    *reads post*

    sorry, how much did you say Server 2008 cost?

    *thinks about saving up*
     
  13. hell_freezer

    hell_freezer Member

    directX 10 is the only thing that good in vista.
     
  14. Almo

    Almo Well-Known Member

    yay die vista DIE!
     
  15. regular_gamer

    regular_gamer Active Member

    Meybe windows will let us vista users upgrade for free, as if to say, "I'm sorry"
     
  16. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    Not a hope, they didn't let people upgrade from millennium for free.
     
  17. rhyno86

    rhyno86 Active Member

    They might save face and keep some customers if they release a patch to allow XP users to install and use DX10 for now until "7" is released.
    They have to realize that since everyone knows Vista sucks donkey balls, people are going to buy a computer that is preinstalled with Vista and dump it right away for one of the competitors.
    Maybe they could also offer a free downgrade to XP from Vista for those preinstalled boxes...(although not really a "down"grade IMO).
     
  18. commirex

    commirex New Member

    Vista was just a pain. It was buggy, was a resource hog, and looked like a cheap knock off of OS X.

    Good riddance and good luck Microsoft.
     
  19. monter

    monter Guest

    I like vista
     
  20. Patton

    Patton Guest

    You deserve a ban.