i criticized the ps3/360 as a pc for gaming and equitypity disagreed. post your comments and thoughts. i do believe that it is a pc. as a side note, i do believe the original xbox is almost similar to a pc. please note, since this can lead to people into becoming a mad or what not, as i have read the response by equitypity and it made me laughted. the info i gave him was formal and he responded in an outrage. so please be calm in your responses.
wrong and wrong. They are close to PCs, (The 360 especially, as it uses modified PPC hardware). The main reason they are not PCs is they do not adhere to the IBM PC/Intel 8086 specifications which are what defined the PC as we know it. The 360 uses a RISC (Reduced Instruction Set CPU), meaning it is not capable of processing as many instructions as a PC, and the PS3, which also uses a RISC CPU is closer in architecture to a CRAY supercomputer than a consumer PC. the Cell broadband engine is an entirely new design in the processor industry.
what about pda's, which is also known as a handheld computer, and uses a risc processor?! would you suggest that it is a console?!
how can that be if you said that computers must have a cpu that is an 8086 or something?! it contradicts your idea. in addition, the 360 is coming from a powerpc processor, which we know that apple used to run a powerpc processor. with that said, would apple computers from the past be considered a console?!
i wasn't outraged i was teired and the points you gave where meaningless and you patronised me which is a mistake (i don't like it, if you have a point make it but don't pm me) yes they are similar to pc's as it uses same or similar technology but that is and wil always be the way but as the main point i made they are stand alone games machines that is why they are a console you can't upgrade them, you can't install software. they are not pc's yes they are getting more like pc's what with web browsing and the laike but they are so far from being a pc and i don't know why you don't understand oh and by the way he made me out to look like an ass hole but i suggested he make this topic so i didn't have to be the only one telling him. i even gave him the title which he used in future don't make personal comments on the forum its a nice community and doesn't need people getting personal it also starts flame wars (i know guys i used to be the worst for it but i'm good now ;D)
The point of the consoles is that the hardware is dedicated to gaming, not having to run as many things like a full OS in the background. This allows it to use less capable hardware designed for games to be more effective than they would if used in a PC, a basic example is how the PS3 and the 360 have less memory than a modern gaming PC would have (PS3 and 360 have about 512 MB combined system and graphics whereas a PC will usually have around 512 MB in the video card alone and probably 2 GB of system memory). Just because this generation of consoles have conformed to some PC industry standards for convience/money and can operate as media centers doesn't mean that they are PCs.
thank you if your going to argue that the new next-gens are pc's not consoles then how about moble phones, they now have internet and lots of applications and even more as the more and more new ones comes out. would you argue that they are pc's
I said PCs have an 8086 processor, not computers. A PC is a computer that is architecturally 100% compatible with the original IBM PC. Also the current definition of PPC is Pocket PC, not PowerPC.
i was being formal when i pm you my comments. i am being formal now and you still give an outrage like behavior. :-\ yes, this was his idea from the pm he sent me. the next time i'll cite your work. ;D what makes a pc a pc? "thank you if your going to argue that the new next-gens are pc's not consoles then how about moble phones, they now have internet and lots of applications and even more as the more and more new ones comes out. would you argue that they are pc's" there is a huge list on what makes a pc and many of what the 360/ps3 have many of that features with a few exceptions. the mobile phones are pc's as they are incorporated with pdas [aka ppc]. those that do not have those features of a pda are not pc's. "The point of the consoles is that the hardware is dedicated to gaming, not having to run as many things like a full OS in the background. This allows it to use less capable hardware designed for games to be more effective than they would if used in a PC, a basic example is how the PS3 and the 360 have less memory than a modern gaming PC would have (PS3 and 360 have about 512 MB combined system and graphics whereas a PC will usually have around 512 MB in the video card alone and probably 2 GB of system memory). Just because this generation of consoles have conformed to some PC industry standards for convience/money and can operate as media centers doesn't mean that they are PCs." it's true that the 360/ps3 is designed only for gaming and is closed only for gaming. it is that reason why that it is only considered a console. but if that was opened, they you'll see that it is a pc. the traditional definition of a pc is based on the 8086 architecture, but do you follow those traditional ideas forever or use the new ideas of what is a pc?! when you look at pc from todays point of view and look at the past, you wonder why is there a seperation between mac and pc? mac is capable of the pc and vice versa. it has the features of an htpc.
Did you actually read the last sentence of what you quoted from me? PC parts!=PC necessarily, if you open any system from any generation (NES, PSX, so on and so forth) you'll still see the same basics from a PC, there'll be a motherboard, processor, memory, etc. yet you don't seem to have any problems with any of those. I guess we're just disregarding the fact that the Dreamcast was designed to be able to run Windows CE, yet there is no fuss about it being a console? And if my memory serves me correctly it was the original Xbox that was closest to being a PC as it's processor was a modified Intel Celeron chip and used desktop 3.5" hard drives with IDE ribbons. In the end it all just boils down to what the machine was designed to do, not what others have made it do.
