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Is the difference between the age of the character and the actor too great?

Discussion in 'Debates' started by Annanelle, Jan 28, 2010.

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Is the difference between the age of the character and the actor in today's movies too great?

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  2. I dont know

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  3. Not really

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  1. Annanelle

    Annanelle Well-Known Member

    Rob Pattinson, twilight is 23, and acting as a 17 year old,
    personally, i just think this is creepy,
    whats everyone elses opinion?
     
  2. sylar1000

    sylar1000 Well-Known Member

    Apparently Actors/Actresses like to try and play younger roles, Plus the dude who plays Edward rules, he thinks twilight fans are creepy, the author is crazy, has spoken out against both of them, and knows that they won't dare try to replace them while he racks in the dough.

    Also, the Brother on Hannah Montana is like 30 and plays a 17 year old

    A guy on Zoey 101 is like 23 playing a 16 or so year old.
     
  3. redoperator

    redoperator Well-Known Member

    who cares I don't whatApparently Actors/Actresses like to try and play younger roles, Plus the dude who plays Edward rules, he thinks twilight fans are creepy, the author is crazy, has spoken out against both of them, and knows that they won't dare try to replace them while he racks in the dough.

    Also, the Brother on Hannah Montana is like 30 and plays a 17 year old

    A guy on Zoey 101 is like 23 playing a 16 or so year old.
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    so what I don't watch those shows
     
  4. Natewlie

    Natewlie A bag of tricks

    Learn how to debate. Take his points and use them.

    As long as the actor looks and acts believable for the age they're trying to portray, then I really don't care. Robert Pattington (Pattinson? I don't care, whatever), looks like he could be 17.

    Although on the other hand something like Juno... Yeah, Ellen Paige doesn't look the right age to me and doesn't really portray a teen (the stupid trying to be cool, witty and edgy type talk she does). Bleh.
     
  5. Hypr

    Hypr Well-Known Member

    That's nothing. There were other roles filled in by actors/actresses that had greater difference in age. One example was Vivian Vance in "I Love Lucy" who played as Ethel Mertz. Ethel Mertz was a character who was supposed to be in her late-fifties to early-sixties, yet Vivian starred in that role at the age of 42.

    Another example, Arthur Fonzarelli from "Happy Days". Fonzi was supposed to be 17, yet the actor, Henry Winkler was 29.

    I'm starting to understand why you hated G-Masters G-Masters hated you...
     
  6. Mein

    Mein Well-Known Member

    It's kind of out of place if the age's diference is too far, since different age means different character, physically.
    But if it's only 1 or 2 years, i don't mind.
     
  7. damanali

    damanali Well-Known Member

    if you watch german movies, the actors are in their 30's and they are like 16-19 years old... which is fine cause you dont need to know the biography of the actors, just the acting...

    also, if the movie is dubbed in english from other languages like german, the actors really looks and sound young. Like ants in the pants... their original voice sounds so german and mature...
     
  8. redoperator

    redoperator Well-Known Member


    I do know, I'm just saying I have no points to debate...

    ... I don't like actors trying to act younger than they are... the movie goer is better off seeing a "B" rate actor portraying that character, besides I find it infuriating seeing 50 movies with the same actors over and over again... it seems stupid to even have "A" list movie actors... anyone can be a great actor given the right script and the right lessons... period.
     
  9. Hypr

    Hypr Well-Known Member

    Right lessons?

    It takes talent to be a great actor, not just the "right lessons". Anyone can be taught the "right lessons" and still get rejected from auditions. Tell that to the 200-something failures in the Arts building at my university that were taught everything they should know about acting, but still got turned down.
     
  10. Suiseiseki

    Suiseiseki Well-Known Member

    I really have nothing to contribute, but lol at arts majors.
     
  11. kme92

    kme92 Well-Known Member

    Most disney channel stars are well older then teens.
    Them and the Harry Potter Kids
     
  12. redoperator

    redoperator Well-Known Member

    yes right lessons... can you ride a bike? can you draw? with practice, you can find talent... period. don't they teach that in art class? mine did. and G-masters is dying anyway... so that's practically irrelevant
     
  13. Hypr

    Hypr Well-Known Member

    Thank you for confirming my point that it takes more than the "right lessons" to become proficient in what you do. Talent is something that is developed outside of learning via practice. As I said, "right lessons" itself are not sufficient.
     
  14. venomfang77

    venomfang77 Member

    in percy jackson the lightning thief, the person playing percy is 16 when he's supposed to be 12, and the person playing annabeth is over 20 when she's supposed to be 12
     
  15. redoperator

    redoperator Well-Known Member

    um your welcome, but unless you practice you will never find your talent. like sitting on the couch instead of dancing. you can't just jump up and say "I WANT TO BE AN ASTRONAUT" and make your own rocket and be back by dinner time...

    ... lets see if anyone caught that.
     
  16. Natewlie

    Natewlie A bag of tricks

    You do know that acting is just that. Acting, this includes playing as a different sex, a different person or a different age. I can guarantee you Brad Pitt isn't a man who ages backwards or that he's a figment of Edward Norton's imagination. There's a reason why people hire someone like Brad Pitt instead of Ron Jeremy, and a B rated actor, because he or she is a great actor. Also if you think it's silly that they're in so many movies and that's ruining the immersion of the film, well you're not immersing or trying to immerse yourself in the film in the first place. Plus if he's a great enough actor, no character will be the same, again, Brad Pitt's characters are all different, mean while someone like David Shwimmer is a one trick pony.

    Oh wait, have you even heard of David Shwimmer in any movies lately? Hell no, there's probably a reason for that.

    And you really don't learn how to be a great actor, it's nearly uncanny. I can guarantee you that the people that suck at art or drama, will always suck or be below average compared to the people who are naturally born with that talent.

    Like I said, if you don't really look like your age and make it too flamboyant (like I said in my previous post with Juno), than you can play a role that's younger. Leslie Nielson could not play Edward from Twilight or any high school student, unless it's done for comedic effect.
     
  17. redoperator

    redoperator Well-Known Member

    whoa, I'm gonna have to stop you there... uncanny? sure you have people with steady hands or a smooth voice, but just because you suck at it doesn't mean you can't practice enough to be good at it... Albert Einstein sucked at math, but with practice he became Germany's and later on America's greatest mathematician... it just goes to say, if you don't succeed try and try again. and the acting point, of course any one can be a good actor... its the part they are given that truly shows their strengths, you can't give Leslie Nielson the part of a serious evil dictator off the bat, but with practice, a few past roles in darker movies, and some appearance changes, then yes he can become that evil dictator and have a darker attitude.

    David Shwimmer would go great in a comedy regarding roomates or as a quirky teacher and let him age, you might have a bunch of different role possibilities. Directors tend to hire brad pitt more for his good looks than his acting (being married to a woman who men dream of night and day is also a plus) I think his acting is kinda meh. oh try this on for size... Cloud strife and final fantasy... you getting sick of that character/series? well, I am, and a lot of people are also.
     
  18. Suiseiseki

    Suiseiseki Well-Known Member

    I fucking love Edward Norton.

    And I have no fucking clue what Final Fantasy 7 has to do with this.
     
  19. redoperator

    redoperator Well-Known Member

    cloud strife is, for me one of the most useless characters I have seen, Squall is ungodly better then him, also the point I'm trying to say is what if you saw that character almost every single day, heard his name every single day you were alive, you'd get sick too.
     
  20. Suiseiseki

    Suiseiseki Well-Known Member

    First of all, FF8 was terrible. Like, one of the games that made me hurt to play. Not to mention Squall is a terrible one-dimensional character.

    Secondly, I can see where you're coming from, but unlike Cloud M.F. Strife most A-list actors are A-list for a reason. They're good and they pull in money. Nobody cares if you're sick of them. But that's besides the point, a good actor can play roles that aredifferent in age etc. Like Christian Bale and Edward Norton. Oh man, they're awesome.