Is OnLive going to rule over all game concles?

i Bevile it has its ups and downs because when your net is down ....then what ? net+down=no gameing in addition to it will put a lot of game store out of bessens becuse of the instant play and buy. + monthy or anuly fee...who knows?


but the ups are no driveing to go to game store + you can work with the game delopers online and chat whit them too. + small concel easy to keep track of + can do better that a 360! and ps3!, wii!!!

now who do you know that will pay for it?

 

it will replace the 360/ps3 possibly because they seem to be going that direction and the people that made this thing released the product sooner then sony and microsoft to ever release one. remember sony and ms kept referring on digital distribution. this is the best digital distribution as you don't need to worry about disk space or waiting periods for downloads. not only that, i believe that it's focus will be based on designing games according to the specs of a pc. i don't believe the people that build this thing aren't console hardware specialists like sony or ms, so it is likely that those who plan to make games for it will be making games according to pc spec.

this is a matter of point of view. to ms and sony, they are in big trouble as they may no longer have a video game business. but to people like the hardcore, they would love this.

btw, does this mean ms and sony will become a full dedicated software developer again like they were before joinning the video game industry?

 

onlive is just The Phantom without a hard disk....IF The Phantom didnt work, i dont see why Onlive would...... not to mention you cant play Onlive when your DSL modem fail....you still can with PS3, Wii and 360.

not to mention since all the game is store in the onlive server.....its just like P2P MMO..... you paid for the game but you dont own them.... since you have no control over them, and what if onlive server when down....you'll be stuck with a console that cant play any game..... since onlive console have no hard disk, where do you think your game save would be store? right onlive server, what if the server got a roll back? your game save would get roll backed as well.

 

Onlive will fail.
You don't "own" the games you buy, you simply have rights to them.

Lets say you bought the original GTA san andrea's, when it got pulled off the shelves you still had your copy, with onlive you would lose it.


I'm not gonna worry about Onlive, It'll fail too quick to become a problem for the real companys, heck even my incredible anti-ps3-anism can be put aside for this piece of crap.

 

this can change. if this system fails, then digital distribution will fail.

 

I still think OnLive's principles should be applied to the DS! How much better could our DS games be if we're just watching a online movie that we control, you know? I'd certainly pay for that!

 

Ok, so is onlive an online store of games that you can stream to your console? If so then obviously it will fail. As loony said it will put too much strain on communications, I can guarantee there will be connection trouble all the time and what if someone found a bypass past the pay system. Then wouldn't they get games for free, that'd cost i bet. Then at this time, in a recession they announce it. Just imagine the money that would be lost if this were to be a world-wide hit, it'd cost billions to make it even possible.
I think, at the moment it is a stupidly bad idea, i like my good old discs that i lose sometimes and have to find, it's the fun of organising things. All i can hope for is that this fails and MS or Sony bring out a new, unique console.

 

Nah, I just hope they can get some more great games out. Onlive is interesting enough, but we all know how devastating it can be to lose hundreds of hours of data, or to not be able to play something just because the network is down. When I was in the process of building my custom comp i had no access to the internet, and if it wasn't for my ps3, I probly would have completely broke down. Besides, I don't want to buy the games I already paid for again. Still, I signed up for the beta, but unless they give free rentals during it, I'll only be able to test the non-purchasing parts. Too much money is going towards other games that they probably won't consider 'worthy' of being on there. Like 90% of the games I own.

 

man, i though most people know what i mean when i said "own them".... you know having the product at your hand do whatever you want with it (burn it, sell it, trash it, stomp it, ect, ect, ect)

 

All "concles", maybe... All consoles, no
Basically it wouldn't be allowed and wouldn't be wanted, espescially since consoles generally have a specific target audience

 

go to their service site, [ http://www.onlive.com/service.html ]
it's a rental service. the reference for "no big downloads and installs" means that you don't own the titles but rather use the service of the onlive service to play games. so it's practically a virtual online rental store in which you are not paying for the rental of the games but the service of the system. it's a total failure. if renting was a big thing on consumers, then most of us would sell our cars and rent from places like rent-a-car. but we don't rent, instead we buy.

since you are not an owner of the game, then that means you're not in control of the product. what is so great about pc gaming is that you are able to patch and mod the game according to how you like it. since you aren't installing or having ownership of this product, that becomes hard to do and it means the companies are in control of your ownership. this is the second failure so far.

can you find other features that are worthless or worthwhile?

 

...and what about poor people like me with bugeted net?

20GB a month?

It's all I need, but that service will fail to many so called good parents who may use it, since cheaper, but then the games come out reeeaaallly slow and thier kids complain and then parents complain because they understand and they stop using the service...

Plus it's all third party stuff-no halo or killzone or mario on that thing...right?


If this happened when all we had was 2-d gaming-then it would work, but not now...

FAILURE

 

there was a survey in japan about onine distribution, here is a quote,
"...Still, the overwhelming majority of Japanese gamers prefer buying boxed games for reasons like "the satisfaction of owning a physical object" to "because I can sell it when I get bored of it....""

[ http://kotaku.com/5204458/what-do-some-japanese-gamers-think-about-online-gamingdistribution ]

clearly online distribution will never succeed and this onlive service is a failure in reality.

i believe online distribution will only work if the product is really cheap, like below $20 dollars [probably more like below $15 and closer to $10]. if you refer back to the quote above, it clearly tells you that having the ability to sell it at a later time people are able to obtain some sort of value on the product. since online distribution has no physical value, it means that there won't be a true physical market value, since it doesn't exists then that means the product needs to be sold at a much [very] cheaper price then a physical item. but this will never work because no developer and publisher are willing to do that.

 

nah, online distribution will only success when high speed internet connection is a necessity, like gas, electricity or water.

 

Or at least when every person has access to the interwebs...

 

Ha! BT sucks, a government free web should be possible...

 

no. music download was successful even on the 56k days. during the days of 56k, it took about 20 minutes or so depending on the download speeds you get. so it isn't necessarily about the speed of the download. i strongly believe that it's on the ownership of the data. digital distribution on games [and other media like movies] is more restrictive then on music distribution.