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Honorable Death or Peaceful Death?

Discussion in 'Debates' started by damanali, Dec 13, 2009.

  1. damanali

    damanali Well-Known Member

    So i was reading the news and saw some veterans who went to the Pearl Harbor for its remembering thingy... and also read some articles about the war veterans.

    The Japanese in World War II had this Honorable death like when your out of bombs just crash your plane to the enemies and those ritual suicide so that you cant dishonor your family and emperor and stuff.

    So, i was fascinated with their acts and kinda saddened for the veterans remembering their comrades dying in their side so that they might live.

    So if your given the choice, what would you choose, have a honorable death like dying than surrendering and stuff, or save your as and live as long as the creator has given you? Give your reasons why you choosed that.
     
  2. sexywogboy

    sexywogboy Well-Known Member

    Definitely peaceful death. There is no such thing as an Honorable death. Honorable deaths like the one you mentioned are not honourable in my opinion, War is my most hated feature in the world, so the fact that someone can die trying to kill someone else is not honorable.

    I do however believe that doing good in your life such as saving lives by giving money, food and love is honorable. As I said, there's no such thing as an Honorable death.

    I hope what I've said doesn't offend anyone that has had any close friends or family in a previous or current war.
     
  3. meganova

    meganova Well-Known Member

    I choose.. Peaceful death, only with that you can pass on to the next world easily.
    (I hope)

    You can only gain a honorable death if you had done something good to the society
     
  4. Rysio

    Rysio Well-Known Member

    Here, in Poland, during WWII, nazists killed the surrenders anyway. So fighting to the end was an only option. In that case - Honorable. My elder grandfather died fighting, I respect him for that.
     
  5. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    Recently a story was revealed about a british soldier in WWII who died after grabbing a live grenade off some french children who were playing with it. One of the kids pulled the pin out, the soldier saw him, snatched the grenade and ran. he died in the explosion, but saved the lives of 20 french children. Was that not an honourable death? The french think so at least, as he is a local hero in the town, and they are naming a street after him (it is built on the field where he died).
     
  6. sexywogboy

    sexywogboy Well-Known Member

    That is Honorable, but it also got to that for the reason of War. War is not Honorable at all, and really even though the Soldier did a very Honorable thing, you have to start to wonder why there was a grenade in the hands of Children in the first place.
     
  7. calvin_0

    calvin_0 Well-Known Member

    those honorable death is differ then dying while saving others, those soldier belive they and thier family would be honorable if they die for thier emperor (kamikaze), also IIRC after japan get nuked, alot of japanese solider kill them self rather then surrender (seppuku) and become POW, both is a common tradition back in samurai ages.

    since we arent living in an age where honor is everything, i perfer natural death, as in if my time is up, its up..... as albert einstein put it "prolonging life artificially is tasteless".
     
  8. kamuikurou

    kamuikurou Well-Known Member

    I hope I can die peacefully too, without troubling my future family with medical costs and stuff... :)
     
  9. damanali

    damanali Well-Known Member

    For me, i would choose either honorable death or peaceful death, as long as its death now, especially now. would like to die even if its a painful death. i hate dying, then being revive in a hospital somewhere and then have another agonizing death...
     
  10. bhatooth

    bhatooth Well-Known Member

    if you die fighting for your country i think you've done something good to your society
     
  11. theevilvoice

    theevilvoice Member

    Honor is completely arbitrary, therefore doesn't actually exist.

    I would choose a peaceful death, given the two choices.
     
  12. phongle123

    phongle123 Well-Known Member

    It depends, if you are a lowlife, then a peaceful death would be better. But if you are a Samurai, if you lost a battle you would need to slice your body in half to your spine and die, but if you want a more honorable death you would also take the sword and pull it up to your neck.
     
  13. abiyo

    abiyo Well-Known Member

    i would choose peaceful death...cause honorable death is for the people who really cared about their honor..while i'm not..
     
  14. Tom Maul

    Tom Maul New Member

    So totally honorable death

    DIE IN BATTLE :D (Valhalla)
     
  15. Kage56

    Kage56 Well-Known Member

    why didn't he just run far and throw high....?
    well, first time i saw this thread i was going to rant about war the same way Raysie, but i lost interest after a while.
    peaceful, i'm not interested in honorable basically because it isn't gonna do shit for me when i'm gone.


    that is not honorable, and they stab their abdomen w/ a dagger not slice themselves in half + you slice your body in half, you cut through your spine but you'll be dead way before you're cut in half; you'd need someone else to slice you up.
    no, you don't need/have to be a lowlife to have a peaceful death.
    not that many people want to die for what some other people started; they should just fight it out between themselves and leave the uninvolved out of it.
     
  16. phongle123

    phongle123 Well-Known Member

    Where have you been? Someone slices the dagger up ur spine for you is if the KING things that your worthy or some word like that loyal, etc., and if your not like that, then if you wanted a MORE honorable death, you would have to slice up ur spine urself.
     
  17. agunimon45

    agunimon45 Active Member

    Peaceful death spells Plain and Simple. Honorable spells Too Troublesome.
     
  18. g@l1h

    g@l1h Well-Known Member

    If my country choose peaceful death back then, we wouldn't have our liberation. :)
     
  19. Paddette

    Paddette Well-Known Member

    Honour is depending on what you salvage. If you blow up a town full of people, with yourself included and it saves the world from a nuclear threat -- and you do this knowing you will never be dubbed the saviour. That is honourable. You stopped innocent animals and people dying. On the other hand, if you did the same thing just to prove a point, with saving nothing, then it's not honourable.

    I would rather die knowing I did something to help someone that die another name on a grave.
     
  20. Tian Maut

    Tian Maut Well-Known Member

    Yup I agree with you Boss. But sometimes a honorable death is a peaceful death.